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07-30-2010, 01:17 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: LSC427, 427DartSHP
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That was a pretty good rant there ItBites.
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07-30-2010, 01:35 PM
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ItBites,
I appreciate the post, my feathers were beyond ruffled with some of these ignorant comments. I don't mind alittle flack, but I didn't post, "hey what do you think of my car", I asked for other interior pictures...
I am curious as to why this would make a moderator's head hurt...it's still a discussion about something we are all passionate about, and that's the Cobra, my way or your way, I still love the car and love having it.
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07-30-2010, 01:38 PM
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No sense making it a brand thing. It's a person thing, and there are some persons that are difficult to tolerate.
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07-30-2010, 01:40 PM
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I'm in touch with that emotion, but Im trying to tolerate.
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07-30-2010, 02:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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07-30-2010, 02:31 PM
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Location: Queen Creek,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, Vette suspension, Baer 6P brakes, 540 cid Chevy, Haltech Fuel Injection
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Cashburn,
It just so happened this individual has your brand. Sorry for any collateral impact; hope none of it splashed onto you. All these kit cars and rollers have their peculiarities. My Midstates has a fiberglass body and corvette suspension parts and 540 ci of injected BBC... Oh my!!
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07-30-2010, 03:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ItBites
Cashburn,
It just so happened this individual has your brand. Sorry for any collateral impact; hope none of it splashed onto you. All these kit cars and rollers have their peculiarities. My Midstates has a fiberglass body and corvette suspension parts and 540 ci of injected BBC... Oh my!!
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It's fine, I get your reasoning... but there is a reverse discrimination that exists and there's no sense fueling that fire. There are plenty of BDR and SPF owners (Kirkham, ERA, etc.) that posses the talent to build a car but not the time. Or the money they can make in that time far exceeds the return.
What makes a kit car economical is providing your time/labor at no cost. Once you factor in your time as money (for some people its a lot more than others) the value goes completely out the window.
We serviced a FFR for a local customer, you almost feel guilty billing them the actual time the labor on them costs ... but the "cheap" factor was removed when he started paying us to do it. That's reality.
Give respect, get respect.
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07-30-2010, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cashburn
It's fine, I get your reasoning... but there is a reverse discrimination that exists and there's no sense fueling that fire. There are plenty of BDR and SPF owners (Kirkham, ERA, etc.) that posses the talent to build a car but not the time. Or the money they can make in that time far exceeds the return.
What makes a kit car economical is providing your time/labor at no cost. Once you factor in your time as money (for some people its a lot more than others) the value goes completely out the window.
We serviced a FFR for a local customer, you almost feel guilty billing them the actual time the labor on them costs ... but the "cheap" factor was removed when he started paying us to do it. That's reality.
Give respect, get respect.
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Jay,
Your reality is your own. Your distaste for FFR is frequently displayed here. I'm convinced now that it's simply paranoia. As you know, it's all about the builder's capability when we're talking kits . You don't sell kits. You have a controlled quality environment and FFR does not. At what point do you turn the product over for public consumption or critique? BDRs don't cross the pond in perfect form. Faaaaar from it. The "public" never sees what happens behind the scenes to make BDRs acceptable for delivery. That doesn't happen with a kit. A dealer has the ability to hide what's behind the scenes in prep work before it hits the "public" so when it has it's debut, it's at it's best according to BDR standards. When you pick a garage built FFR off the street, you have no idea of the build stage of the project or the competence of the builder. Your continued comparison of your product to FFR is extremely tiring. My car was built in the USA with my own two hands. Madison, CT just for the record.
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07-30-2010, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
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Jay,
Your reality is your own. Your distaste for FFR is frequently displayed here. I'm convinced now that it's simply paranoia. As you know, it's all about the builder's capability when we're talking kits . You don't sell kits. You have a controlled quality environment and FFR does not. At what point do you turn the product over for public consumption or critique? BDRs don't cross the pond in perfect form. Faaaaar from it. The "public" never sees what happens behind the scenes to make BDRs acceptable for delivery. That doesn't happen with a kit. A dealer has the ability to hide what's behind the scenes in prep work before it hits the "public" so when it has it's debut, it's at it's best according to BDR standards. When you pick a garage built FFR off the street, you have no idea of the build stage of the project or the competence of the builder. Your continued comparison of your product to FFR is extremely tiring. My car was built in the USA with my own two hands. Madison, CT just for the record.
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WTF are you talking about?  I don't know where or why you turned the corner, but I hope you come around sometime. Bummer Buttrick is just no fun to be around...
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07-30-2010, 04:05 PM
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ItBites...it wasn't directed at you or any other individual, although I found your post to reflect my own thoughts (though you might wanna pull back on lumping all roller-buyers together...some of us don't even look alike or dance  )
My head hurt because I just got finished being sucked into that damn humping/barfing dog thing and I turn around and see folks even having to respond like you did...
...and yet, folks are entitled to a bit of freedom in expressing their opinion.
What it means in my world is that I'll have to spend time watching this little discussion to insure it doesn't assplode.
Fleiss...that should pretty much answer your question, no?
Skuzzy...yup!

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07-30-2010, 04:14 PM
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I get it Jamo, I just wanted pictures of INTERIORS...Damn and you all think women are whiney and gossipy...you men are WORSE.
The barfing dog picture was one of the posters in here TButtrick but he deleted it.
Now that it's cleared up...can I just go back to looking at interiors?
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07-30-2010, 04:48 PM
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Can't we all just get along. I like to think all Cobras are personal interpretations of an original design we have all been drawn to. No two are the same whether the choice of engine, body or interior. Now the real argument should be big block vs small block! 
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07-30-2010, 04:41 PM
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We're all just getting in touch with our feminine side...
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07-30-2010, 06:41 PM
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The barfing dog picture was one of the posters in here TButtrick but he deleted it.
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So you had to bring that up again (sort of speak). Here I am trying to reflect on all my wrong-doings, trying to bring peace amongst all of the misguided liberals and finding my centered-soul so that some day, I could possibly be as good of a person as those who judge me would expect. I will not die until I live up to your level of superior being but I think you've got the wrong thread.
Lets not forget the fact the those dogs were fornicating and not just puking. Puking is one thing but I think those dogs were taking it up the... uhhhhh... the interior?... oh, never mind.
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07-30-2010, 09:54 PM
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Enough about the damn dogs.
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07-31-2010, 12:55 AM
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The End.

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