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07-30-2010, 10:56 AM
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Ernie---the differance between racing a car and flying a plane---in a car you can't change the altitude your operating at---you can only steer right, go straight,turn left---spin, yes, but that is only a way of slowing down/stopping---
Flying---you can't slow down or you will stop flying---you can change altitude by a few feet to a huge amount---
About the radio tapes-----as a pilot, you must fly the plane---as a controller-they have never ever crashed a desk----you cannot let a controller control your a/c, they only issue clearances
And with that -----this accident could of happened to thousands of pilots in the same situation if they had let the contrllers fly the planes from there desk---not just Jack
Last edited by Jerry Clayton; 07-30-2010 at 10:58 AM..
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08-02-2010, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
Ernie---the differance between racing a car and flying a plane
in a car you can't change the altitude your operating at---you can only steer right, go straight,turn left---spin, yes, but that is only a way of slowing down/stopping---
Flying---you can't slow down or you will stop flying---you can change altitude by a few feet to a huge amount---
About the radio tapes-----as a pilot, you must fly the plane---as a controller-they have never ever crashed a desk----you cannot let a controller control your a/c, they only issue clearances
And with that -----this accident could of happened to thousands of pilots in the same situation if they had let the contrllers fly the planes from there desk---not just Jack
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Tell Carl and Brad that and I'll bet they will disagree.   
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08-14-2010, 11:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
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Quotes from the article:
" Roush's accident occurred upon landing at Wittman Regional Airport during the annual AirVenture show, which draws thousands of spectators and leads to heavy air traffic flying in and out of Oshkosh. Roush was flying his Beechcraft Premier 1A -- his "flying around airplane," he said -- when he had "a conflict in airspace with another airplane" after he had been cleared to land. "I was unable to address the conflict and keep the airplane flying," added Roush, who also filed a report with the National Transportation Safety Board on Friday. :
" Friend and former Roush driver Mark Martin, himself a pilot, could relate. "
" "I don't want to get into that much, but when there's an air show ... they've got aircraft that are landing just nose-to-tail, and they might be landing on other runways, on taxiways, all this stuff simultaneously. It's not something you deal with under normal circumstances. Under normal circumstances, they're way spread apart and all of that stuff," said Martin, familiar with the scenario from flying into the annual Sun n' Fun show in Lakeland, Fla.
"Jack got in a situation where he thought, 'How am I going to get out of this without hitting somebody?' Because of all the things that were going on, which is exactly what I thought would happen, because, you know, he's in a jet and there are some very small aircraft at different speeds and those kinds of things, and he just got in a situation where he was uncertain about how he was going to make it all work, got slow and tried to get slowed down and got a little too slow and whatever. It was one of those situations where it was a bad deal." "
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/head...ash/index.html
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08-14-2010, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
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Roush: "I was unable to address the conflict and keep the airplane flying,"
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In my experience, a 20% chance of hitting another airplane is usually preferable to a 100% chance is hitting the ground. Those words sound to me like an intelligent pilot trying to softsell why he made a bad decision to continue a bad approach.
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Last edited by Tommy; 08-14-2010 at 12:51 PM..
Reason: typo
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