2011 F350 PS or GMC Cummins

[Allan A]

Thanks guys I will try and figure this out.

Allan

[Jerry Clayton]

Don't it seem funny that it will cost more for a truck to pull your trailer than your Cobra costs?

Of course there are a couple of alternatives---

Put a trailer hitch on the Cobra and pull the truck!!!!

Buy a used truck---these things will run for hundreds of thousands of miles--my 99 Ford has over 250k on the speedo and the speed sensor was bad for over 4 years brfore I changed it this year, probably has near or over 400,000 miles---

[Mdman352]

I have owned upwards of 43 Ford diesel trucks in F-350 & F-450 configuration for the past 30 years for my landscape company. The best motor was the 7.3 turbo. Although the 6.0 has had problems we never experienced any problems with the head gaskets.
When the twin turbo came out, i test drove one and the mileage was terrible so I ended up buying an Obamalet crewcab single wheel truck that listed for 60K. NICE truck!!!. it got 16.7 mpg all day long around town and 22.9 on the highway. after 2 years i found myself needing a new truck so I tried the Fords again. Since the engine option is now about 8600k over the gas motor and the price of fuel is about he same the numbers do not work. you really have to want a diesel. The Ford gas truck, F-350 got 8.2 on the highway in my test loop and the diesel got 12.2mpg. Not real encouraging. I went down to the Obamalet dealer and got into a 3500 regular cab with the Duramax and went out for a drive. Pulling away from a light the trans went into second gear whereupon i nailed it and promptly broke the rear tires loose. I drove back to the dealer and bought it. It lives its life plowing snow, has a 2 yard salt spreader mounted on it for 4 months of the year and pulls a 20 Haulmark car trailer when needed and is a daily driver. the mileage is around 15.6 with the spreader in the bed. This truck pulls like a raped ape!!! I drove the Dodge but could not get a good feeling about them. They were priced WAY below the Ford and the Obamalet. In my opinion, having driven Fords for most of my adult life the new Ford trucks are much cheaper "feeling". They are priced about the same
Now....
about the urea as an exhaust treatment:
The material costs $19.00 per 2.5 gallons and a 5 gallon fillup is supposed to last about 5000 miles according to the dealer. GM and Ford are using this system and Dodge will follow in 2012.
Using biodiesel is fine except it eats up rubber lines. we have had to replace the rubber with plastic lined hoses. No issues with lack of power and the bonus is the exhaust smells like McDonalds french fries.
No one hates the idea of Government Motors more than me but I would buy the Obamlet and never look back.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Mdman352

Now....
about the urea as an exhaust treatment:
The material costs $19.00 per 2.5 gallons and a 5 gallon fillup is supposed to last about 5000 miles according to the dealer. GM and Ford are using this system and Dodge will follow in 2012.

DEF (hi-grade urea 32.5%, de-ionized water 67.5%) costs depend on where/how you buy. PACCAR (Peterbilt/Kenworth) sells a 3 gallon jug with spout locally here for $11.65 per jug. Buy it at the pump or in 55 gallon drums or 275 gallon totes and the cost is much less.

All DEF is API certified so brand does not matter, there is no "proprietary" DEF so Motorcraft works as well in a GM as in a Frieghtliner.........

[la cobra]

I have a 97 ford f250 hd with 7.3 and 275,000 miles. Replaced 1 trans with billet converter at 120,000 miles and no problems. I would check out all options and make your choice.

[rob byrum]

i agree with Slider 701

[JWilly]

I've been a Ford man for a long time. My current truck is a Lincoln LT and is a bona fide POS. I have SYNC on some of my vehicles and it is distracting and simply does not work very well. My daily beater is a little Ford Focus and it has 38 buttons on the dash and console and finding some of them in the maze is another distraction. I'm looking at the new Ford HD trucks and they are loaded with (for me) a bunch of bells and whistles I have no use for. I am definitely looking at some of the other brands of trucks this time.

[Jerry Clayton]

Yep---sometimes it is difficult to select a new station manually on the modern radios---remember when rear speakers came out?