You know, I just don't think those numbers are really accurate. Plus the guy driving the 427 doesn't have any shoulder restraints and really isn't driving it that great (sliding around in his seat!). I think it's great he has a helmet on but that well do little when he's tossed out of the car! It just looks like someone said "hey Joe, wanna go for some hot laps?". I think given a pro driver, both cars would have come out A LOT different.
The new Super Snakes are pretty cool but noticed how many of the "newer" Shelby's are for sale out there at incredibly low prices!! They just won't ever have the same appeal or following I'm afraid of. I'll stick with the old noise maker! I didn't realize HOW much BIGGER the new cars are!! Just me though. Matt
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12.9 for the Shelby Cobra? How embarrasing is that!!! What a crock of BS...
Well, maybe the 427 Shelby version is not as fast as the Superformance version, hahahah - just kidding. This guy had no problem doing a burnout, launching it, winding it up,
and shifting it wide open through the gears. Ended up running 10.70s in this 427 SPF. Doh, I wonder why da Shelby Cobra can't do the same?
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Well, maybe the 427 Shelby version is not as fast as the Superformance version, hahahah - just kidding. This guy had no problem doing a burnout, launching it, winding it up,
and shifting it wide open through the gears. Ended up running 10.70s in this 427 SPF. Doh, I wonder why da Shelby Cobra can't do the same?
The video is of Greg Schroeder's 427SB SPF. He ran bigger ID headers and mufflers, added a Pro-Systems carb that was totally dialed-in, 31 spline axles with True-Trac 3rd member, and MT drag radials. His car runs like stink with minimal mods and a really balanced package/approach. Embarrassing that the FE that they put against the Super Snake was so poorly prepped (either that or the driver was poorly prepped).
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There was an article about Shelby's personal 427 Cobra many many years ago where it ran about 13 seconds in the quarter. As I remember it had 4.1 gears with a 12/1 compression and was running Goodyear racing tires. I was on the first Shelby cruise and asked Shelby why it ran so slow. He got pissed at me about the question and said it was set up for the street. Now I had driven my car as a daily driver and ran mid 12's with a best of 12.40 at 112. My Cobra had the 428 with 3.54 gears. The only changes were side exhaust, 780 Holley, dual point distributor and rain race tires. I believe my car was more of a street car since I had driven it about 48,000 miles in 4 years.
Most of the original SC Cobras ran from 12.2 to 12.4 in the quarter but many were slower. It generally depended on the tires being used and the driver. I had a friend who ran 12.0 at 125 with very hard race tires on his SC Cobra. I know how bad they were because I got them from him and couldn't get any traction. His motor was not stock and I think he would have run in the low 11's with good tires and in the 10's with slicks.
The drag race was a joke. Watch while the mustang is running the road course , the backend kept sliding out . That's a better driving car ? The video was purely for promotional purposes .
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It's great that they saw the cobra as the ultimate sports car as we all do for comparing the super snake too.....the final conclusion is only to be expected as it is a promo!
Let's see this line of BS.
Cobra 2,500 lbs, Super snake 3,800 pounds This is true
Driver of cobra on road course, Drives like MISS DAISY, soft shifts, no power slides, sunday afternoon drive. How old are those BB tires?? Car is running 15" tires. The suspension is very soft, car leans alot in the turns. Long shifts.
1/4 mile time, more crap as others have said. I ran better than that time with a 452 motor with 386 hp and 448 of torque at E-town and Gateway. I used only 3 gears and left the line off idle. MPH show that the guy was dumping on the gas pedal. You DON'T run 12.9 and have a 121 mph trap speed. Must have stopped for coffee and waited for the stang to catch up.If they wanted a faster time from the cobra in the road course, new set of tires would have helped. The barnyard door (cobra) looks about even up with the stang for cutting through the air. Open up those side pipes and see what was left on the table. Now for the stang,
Super Stang, with a blower any car can become 700HP without a lot of work being done to the motor. More boost, A larger set of injectors, intercooler or water injection, custom tuning of the ECU. This car is about 1,500 pounds heavier and this makes a statement about how strong this car is. weight helped this car to launch with new slicks. Put this car up against a Camaro with a blown LS7 and we will see who is the big dog in the weeds. Driver of stang, power slides, they loss time when driving, banging the motor off the rev limiter, lost time, bigger wheels and tires, a plus. The stang has P/S, larger brakes (ABS), traction control and an upgrade suspension setup. A large plus. If CS wants to put a current built car up against a current built car maybe COBRA#3170 would be willing to have a match race. Seeing the optima challenge from 2 years ago shows that a cobra is still the bench mark to compare cars too. I am sure Jerry wouldn't mind taking out 3170 for a couple of shake down laps and show what Bruce has done with a orginial cobra. I'm not sure If 3170 even has power steering. Here is another case of the CS rope a dope. The Stang is quite a car and passes emmissions of Cali. for 2011 and making great power. The cobra has been around for more than 40 years and still worth it's weight in silver. Let's see if the stang will be worth the same in 40 years if we still have gas. Rick L. who's next???
or, the driver was paid off to sand bag it.
soft shifts, no power slides, sunday afternoon drive. How old are those BB tires?? Car is running 15" tires. The suspension is very soft, car leans alot in the turns. Long shifts.
You DON'T run 12.9 and have a 121 mph trap speed. Must have stopped for coffee and waited for the stang to catch up.
If they wanted a faster time from the cobra in the road course, new set of tires would have helped. The barnyard door (cobra) looks about even up with the stang for cutting through the air. Open up those side pipes and see what was left on the table. Now for the stang,
Driver of stang, power slides, they loss time when driving, banging the motor off the rev limiter, lost time, bigger wheels and tires, a plus. The stang has P/S, larger brakes (ABS), traction control and an upgrade suspension setup. A large plus. If CS wants to put a current built car up against a current built car maybe COBRA#3170 would be willing to have a match race. Seeing the optima challenge from 2 years ago shows that a cobra is still the bench mark to compare cars too. I am sure Jerry wouldn't mind taking out 3170 for a couple of shake down laps and show what Bruce has done with a orginial cobra. I'm not sure If 3170 even has power steering.
Here is another case of the CS rope a dope. The Stang is quite a car and passes emmissions of Cali. for 2011 and making great power. The cobra has been around for more than 40 years and still worth it's weight in silver. Let's see if the stang will be worth the same in 40 years if we still have gas.
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