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02-11-2011, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2009 Solbra
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Csx2080
Shelby Cobra Lost for Three Decades Expected to Fetch Nearly a Half-Million at Auction
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/ju...nd_auction.php
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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02-11-2011, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phoenix,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 2252 sold 3-08, 1986 AC Cobra MK IV #185
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Interesting story. I wonder why the new Cobra registry has different information for CSX 2080. Lost for 3 decades? Really?
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02-11-2011, 12:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Lantana,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Just dreaming at this point
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Phart
Interesting story. I wonder why the new Cobra registry has different information for CSX 2080. Lost for 3 decades? Really?
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Interesting story is an understatement.
Guy paid $30,000 for the car in gold coins from his dad, 30 years ago, drove it once and pinched his arm in the door so he parked it in a trailer for 30 years.
Just doesn't add up.........but I guess a lot of "barn finds" have crazy stories like this attached to it.
I wonder how long it will be until someone crawls out of the woodwork and puts a claim to the car for an equally crazy story of their own......much like the lost Daytona Coupe
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02-11-2011, 05:23 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and 427S/C
Posts: 18,851
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Cool car! Story on these cars, expecially the proverbial "Barn Find", always seem to have a bit of hmmm about them. 350lb guy? I have a co-worker at 350lb+ that tried to get into my CCX once and it nearly required a helo rescue...
The unrestored car is now a concept that has become desirable. Didn't these cars come with sealed Lucas lights?
Early registry has the car starting in PA then to WA, was a red car with black interior.
Cool car none the less.
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 02-11-2011 at 05:36 PM..
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02-11-2011, 07:18 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Phart
Interesting story. I wonder why the new Cobra registry has different information for CSX 2080. Lost for 3 decades? Really?
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Let's see.... (balances one hand against the other)...
...believe the SAAC Cobra Registrar...believe a used car dealer...believe the Registrar...believe the dealer.
hmmm...tough call.
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02-11-2011, 09:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Williston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Factory Five - the 1st Mk4
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One of the pictures in the two articles shows the car with a 1963 WA plate. The plate also looks like it has a few different color stickers on it, similar to newer registration/inspection stickers.
Story does not sound right. How and when did the car move from WA to FL?
30 years in a trailer. I'd like to see the condition of the trailer after all that time.
George
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1975 Porsche 911 Targa Carrera - sold
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02-11-2011, 09:59 PM
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Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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I see no problem with the history. The original owner, from WA, sold the car to a dealer in GA in 1978. He sold it to the owner from FL, Carl Windham.
The car wasn't 30 years in a trailer. Two people who were looking for a 289 Cobra in the mid 90's and placed "wanted - 289 Cobra" ads were contacted by Windham, claiming his name was Thagard. The car was in a garage in south Florida. Or maybe more than one, as the owner seemed to like to move it around, possibly for fear someone might steal it. Both potential buyers gave us the heads-up about the car, noting that it was tatty and had mouse droppings in the interior. For some people, "barn find" is often just another way of describing a car that has simply been neglected for a number of years.
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02-28-2011, 07:52 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2009 Solbra
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I just viewed CSX2080 at the Concours d’ Elegance in Boca Raton on Sunday February 27, 2011. The 1963 Shelby Cobra is owned by Donnie Gould of Fort Lauderdale, Fl. it is a 289-271 HP matching numbers car. The car has been parked since 1981 and has just completed a mechanical restoration with close attention paid to preserving original condition. This is the first time CSX 2080 has been shown publicly in over 30 years. Give me restored.
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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02-11-2011, 12:26 PM
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More than likely because the Cobra registry was out dated when it went into print especially the way cobras exchange hands these days. For the latest up dates you need to read the pages of Club Cobra.
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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02-11-2011, 06:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phoenix,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 2252 sold 3-08, 1986 AC Cobra MK IV #185
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02-11-2011, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hudson Valley NY,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, 302, Tremec 3550. #038
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So just how many of the original cobras are still unaccounted for according to Cobra registry?
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02-11-2011, 08:35 PM
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Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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I'm scratching my head, wondering how a car that has been documented as having been in various storage garages in Florida for the past 30 years, is described as "unaccounted for."
The owner's name was wrong in the registry because Windham didn't want people looking at the car in the 90's to be able to locate him. So he gave them a pseudonym, Bill Thagard, which is what ended up in the book. But we have photos of the car and a good description of it as well, which - curiously enough - exactly matches what is now being said about 2080.
Unaccounted for? I don't think so.
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03-02-2011, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: No city...only 118 residents in Manter,
KS
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Auto Works body, Ron Godell Racecars chassis, 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 HO (converted to carb), W/C T-5, 3.73's in a Ford 9" Traction-Loc.
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I looked at all the photos. "Vintage", "patina", both are OK, but at least they could have polished the top of the chrome air cleaner, couldn't they?
Take a look at the closeup of the fender vent....very nicely sculpted into the body. Nothing in the replica industry comes close, not even the Shelby replicas (although the Shelby replicas do have a nicely finished cutout where the sidepipes exit the body on the 427 models).
The 289 model is most assuredly my favorite of all the Cobras, but I think.....no, I KNOW...the FIA model is my clear favorite. Slab-sides look cool, but the FIA is HOT!
Cheers from Dugly
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03-02-2011, 05:42 PM
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More pictures of Boca Raton Concours d' Elegance
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-02-2011, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Glastonbury,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA2041 sold 2021
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The side vents look a little different than others. My memory is that the side vents were not on the early cars, leading me to think these may have been added at a later time. I don't remember at which serial number they were added in production, but someone on CC probably does........
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03-02-2011, 09:33 PM
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The car's original owner added the side vents and hood scoop (purchased through Shelby American) in 1968, following which he also repainted it. The standard side vents did not appear until CSX 2157, although the Le Mans Replica race cars with earlier chassis numbers had larger versions of them.
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03-06-2011, 06:04 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2321
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedsel
The car's original owner added the side vents and hood scoop (purchased through Shelby American) in 1968, following which he also repainted it. The standard side vents did not appear until CSX 2157, although the Le Mans Replica race cars with earlier chassis numbers had larger versions of them.
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I would add that the first group of standard side vent cars had 'cut out' type vents. Later cars had vents that were separate pieces screwed on.
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03-06-2011, 06:59 AM
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Location: Florence,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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Thanks Dan for the pics
Dwight
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03-06-2011, 07:16 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and 427S/C
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Great thread thank you for the pictures and history.....
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03-03-2011, 08:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA2041 sold 2021
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Good details, thanks Ned.....
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