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ERA#611 05-16-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX (Post 1129328)
Let me get this straight. You are gonna give them both cars and still owe 28k? If that's what this deal entails, you are selling your cars short. Maybe I misunderstood.

Lol yeah that is correct. I told them they would have to do better then that. I also said I bet you will take both my cars and 28k for the cobra. I want a cobra just not that bad. Lol

ERA#611 05-16-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Grubby (Post 1129305)
Look at this link. I say it is the same car. Used 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 ERA Replica for Sale. Stock #T39005 | DealerRevs.com - Car Ad #21993707

I visited ERA, met Jeffy and inspected this ERA.

I will shoot you a quick email with my phone number.

John


That is 100% the same car for sure. I wonder what they sold it for? I wonder if I call them tomorrow ifnthey would disclose that info to me.

ERA#611 05-17-2011 06:32 AM

I just spoke with the dealer and his will not budge on his price of $49990 he is very firm on this price and most likely the deal won't happen. I may just have to waitto pay the vette off which is 4 more years and go from there.

ERA#611 05-17-2011 06:35 AM

There are so many good deals on the forum right now I just can't see paying that much for a car I could buy here for 35-45k. After reading some post by Todd the old owner it seems that car had more then a few hicups but maybe that's typical so we'll see...

Cobra446 05-17-2011 11:24 AM

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ERA#611 05-17-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grubby (Post 1129302)
Is this the same ERA that was at European Motorcars in CT? If so, I looked at it about 1 year ago. I can't remember the chassis number. The alum. sheet under the hood looks the same as do several other features. The color is pretty unique. How many ERAs are dark silver?

If this is the same car I can give you my report offline.

John

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Originally Posted by Cobra446 (Post 1129479)
This Car was built by ERA Automobiles New Britain CT. ERA #446 with the best components. It is in excellent condition always kept in a heated garage and never abused. Car runs and drives perfectly. Underneath is as clean as the top side. It has 11K pampered miles and looks as new. Car is registered as a 1966 and uses CT. Historic Plates. It has just been serviced, including motor, transmission and rear end, new sparkplugs, wires and battery. Running an original 427 cu.in. Sideoiler Motor , 4 speed Top Loader Wide Range Transmission, XKE 3:31 Limited Slip Rear Axle ,Pertronix electronic ignition, Stainless Exhaust, Halibrand Pin Drive Knock Off Wheels, Spax adjustable coil over shocks on all four corners , (double on rear). Optional Sway Bars both front and rear, Engine Oil Cooler, Soft Top with Side Curtains, Leather Interior, Powder-coated Frame, Two complete Build manuals, car cover and more. It would cost 90k to Build. Call 860 210-1646 Also steering wheel center cap both AC and Cobra logo caps go with car. 3 sets of cobra floor mats and a box of other misc. spares. Asking 45,500 OBO

I'm in need of someone trading, would you be interested?

Cobra446 05-17-2011 02:44 PM

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RodKnock 05-17-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ERA#611 (Post 1129482)
I'm in need of someone trading, would you be interested?

Then, if they were willing to trade and financial side looks OK for you, buy the ERA. The SS and the Z06 sound like very nice cars, but personally, I'd rather have the ERA, assuming it all checks out OK.

TButtrick 05-17-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Radford (Post 1129272)
There's no doubt that ERA is one of the best. I have to say that the guy in the video was quite a turn off. I get the sense you're chomping at the bit to get a car and I would only say that you may want to take a little time and do some checking around. I'm sure the car is worth $50K as described, but it is a buyer's market right now and there are some great deals to be had.

Also, do you know what you're getting into with Cobra ownership? It's probably nothing like what you're used to with the vette and Impala. Though I've had my car for ten years, I've seen a lot of them come and go. Buying a Cobra is an emotional deal - take it easy.

I think the guy did an outstanding job on the video other than a couple of minor inaccurate statements. I wish to hell every Cobra for sale had this type of preview. Well done and bravo. On the surface, worth every bit of $50K IMHO.

ZOERA-SC7XX 05-17-2011 06:21 PM

I'd hold out for a while if I were you. You've got your hands full with the Vette note, and if you trade, you lose a bunch. The Impala could be worth quite a bit towards the Cobra purchase, only not via a trade. Many big block Impala convertibles sell for enough to buy the Cobra outright. In effect, you'd be giving the Corvette away. Be patient and find the right buyer for the Impala. Almost every Cobra owner here has had to wait for the right time due to the excessive cost.

ERA#611 05-18-2011 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TButtrick (Post 1129540)
I think the guy did an outstanding job on the video other than a couple of minor inaccurate statements. I wish to hell every Cobra for sale had this type of preview. Well done and bravo. On the surface, worth every bit of $50K IMHO.

What kind of inaccurate statements are you talking about, something i need to look at or the guy was just winging it and not really knowing what hes talking about?

ERA#611 05-18-2011 05:51 AM

The family on my Corvette forum think im nuts! They are telling me to hold on to what i have because the Z06 commemorative edition will be worth way more then any corba replica. Is there any truth to that? From what i see they are all in the 40-80k range for a nice BB set up with a great looking car around it. My vette has been deprecaiting since the day i got it. I must say the vette is easy to maintain and fun as hell to drive, i mean what other car has 405hp and get 30mpg on the highway its nuts. People are saying if you have over 450hp in a cobra it wont hook up and at 100mph plus the front end gets super light and has a hard time stopping it self. They are telling me i cant drive in the rain, on hot days and cant take trips longer then a hour? The rain and the hot days i can see but why cant i drive it more then an hour? In fact i dont even drive the cars now i have in the rain and if your doing 100mph who needs a/c lol

but all kidding aside is there any truth to any of this?

RAO-3 05-18-2011 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA#611 (Post 1129659)
The family on my Corvette forum think im nuts! They are telling me to hold on to what i have because the Z06 commemorative edition will be worth way more then any corba replica. Is there any truth to that? From what i see they are all in the 40-80k range for a nice BB set up with a great looking car around it. My vette has been deprecaiting since the day i got it. I must say the vette is easy to maintain and fun as hell to drive, i mean what other car has 405hp and get 30mpg on the highway its nuts. People are saying if you have over 450hp in a cobra it wont hook up and at 100mph plus the front end gets super light and has a hard time stopping it self. They are telling me i cant drive in the rain, on hot days and cant take trips longer then a hour? The rain and the hot days i can see but why cant i drive it more then an hour? In fact i dont even drive the cars now i have in the rain and if your doing 100mph who needs a/c lol

but all kidding aside is there any truth to any of this?

The experience of driving a cobra is quite different than that of a 2004 Corvette. The Cobra is more of a thrill to drive but has few creature comforts whereas the Corvette has more of everything all around you. If you haven't been for a ride in one, you should do so; then you can make your own judgment. Every ERA Cobra is different, hand built to what the original owner wanted in his own Cobra whereas the Corvette is an assembly-line car.

If you can, try going to a local Cobra meet so that you can see what you're getting into if you haven't done so already.

Ray

computerworks 05-18-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA#611 (Post 1129659)
The family on my Corvette forum think im nuts!

You should hear what we tell a Cobra guy when he is thinking of getting a Vette.

:LOL::p

ERA Chas 05-18-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA#611 (Post 1129655)
What kind of inaccurate statements are you talking about, something i need to look at or the guy was just winging it and not really knowing what hes talking about?

1. Those are Trigo aluminum wheels-not 'the real deal' as that schmuck says. Real Halibrands are magnesium, unavailable and cost more than twice what Trigos cost.
2.BFG T/A radials are junk for a Cobra. (Search)
3. The 'smooth underbody' is total BS- the aluminum gas tank is smooth sheet about 3' feet long. It's all just neat design and assembly-no aero intent at '160 or 170MPH'. I have driven 155 and the under body is NO help what-so ever. The rest of the car is a barn door.
4. 'Two piece brake rotors'? The rotors on Wilwoods (Not mentioned IF they're on here-a premium selling point) are one piece bolted to a bearing carrier hub. More double-talk for 'car guys' who are clueless.
5. No mention of Sideoiler or 428 big blocks-only '500HP'. (BTW, 500HP in an FE is mundane performance.) That's a huge cost-to-buy/build difference. If it had a Sideoiler, that would be stated as a premium selling point. Not mentioned so it's likely a 428 or smaller FE. I know you don't know the difference (which is why Fleming is making up this tale full of hype BS and suggestions of great worth-to shaft guys like you) so search here and learn before getting ripped. Boasting about 'chip guard' on the fenders means 'I don't know anything else important I can say'.
6. The kit including oil cooler is about a $400 option from ERA-not just the braided lines and fittings as Fleming stated.
7. This car will not cost '$80 or $90K' to replicate. A turnkey to this (apparent) level will be $60 to $65K out ERA's door.
8. In today's market this is a $40 to $43K car.
9. Contact Todd Hedges for the true story on the car. You can see that when you're not fully informed, you're just fodder for artists like Fleming to screw you out of two collectibles and too much cash. You need a lot more education than you have to shop/own these cars. This board is filled with 'Who makes the car I just bought and how do I fix it?' threads.

RodKnock 05-18-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA#611 (Post 1129659)
People are saying if you have over 450hp in a cobra it wont hook up and at 100mph plus the front end gets super light and has a hard time stopping it self.

Here's a Kirkham Cobra with 700+ HP that was able to hook up at the dragstrip for a 10.XX second run. :)



RodKnock 05-18-2011 08:00 AM

Back in the archives and annals of Club Cobra there was a gentleman by the name of "rsimones." He had a Corvette, bought a Cobra and the sold the Cobra and bought another Vette. He was not prepared for Cobra ownership and I think you should think long and hard about buying a Cobra, because they are a very different "animal" than the cars that you currently own.

I used to own a 1966 427 Corvette Convertible with a 540ci engine and sidepipes. A WAY different experience. Also I think they made too many special edition Z06's in 2004 for them to become valuable. I think the ERA will hold its value better now that whoever buys this car won't be the original owner and/or builder.

EDIT: Added link to old "rsimones" thread, though it has been "neutered" by the OP before he left CC.

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-...carefully.html

RodKnock 05-18-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1129689)
1. Those are Trigo aluminum wheels-not 'the real deal' as that schmuck says. Real Halibrands are magnesium, unavailable and cost more than twice what Trigos cost.

Chas is just trying to drive up the market on magnesium Halibrands. Don't listen to him. :LOL:

(Actually, listen to Chas, he's right, but he deserves a hard time occasionally, especially since he's bringing me down, bumming me out, making me very sad, since there are no magnesium wheels to be purchased at the present time and I want ME some).

ERA Chas 05-18-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1129740)
... he's bringing me down, bumming me out, making me very sad, since there are no magnesium wheels to be purchased at the present time and I want ME some).

Wait-I know of a set!! They're right downsta----oh, never mind.:LOL::cool:

computerworks 05-18-2011 02:26 PM

Here's a friendly tip...STFU about mag wheels here.

:cool:

;)


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