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10-01-2011, 07:02 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
I'm just feeling out, of how many owners would be interested in a kit for just for our cobras ? I DO NOT have any details yet.
For now anyway,..... the brackets, pulley system etc., would be for an FE, and possibly small block Fords later. If we can generate enough positive yes's, I'll report this to the company and see what can be done. No,....promice's.
Sorry we don't have any more information as of now. As you know, Shelby built two cobras with the twin Paxton Superchargers, but I'm sure this will be a single application.
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Even though the information here is very interesting and informative, let's please get back to the purpose of my thread.
Thank you.
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10-01-2011, 01:55 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 #169, Ford 408 Stroker & ZF Transaxle
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Kevin,
I thought they were discussing your topic of who would be interested in a Paxton and it's nice to hear Paradise Wheels is still in business and offers the orginal designs which I would think most Cobra guys would want if they were going to install one, including brackets, belts etc. So not sure what you were looking for...a commitment from people for someone to create something new? Is this going to be original appearing or something else. Guess more details would be nice to have before you express interest, The one thing to consider with a Paxton on a Cobra vs Mustang is the room and slant of the hood vs means if you are going to use the bonnett/carb you need some hose that drops down like I made on mine as the blower has to be mounted down lower. If you have someone that wants to design something a turn key install kit probably would be of interest assuming price is competitive....
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10-01-2011, 02:55 PM
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It's not a big deal, I just wanted to ask how many others would be interested in a system so I can report the numbers to the manufacture. I have no problem with people asking questions about the types available and how they work and the fitments in cobras, that's a good thing.
At this point, I'm not wanting absolute yes's, just say, very interested, that way I can talk further to the company that we do have cobra owners that would like a system made. Their concern is coming out with one, and not selling enough to recoup the time & money. With any company, you just can't sell a few.
The number one priority now, is for us to do some research, before development.
If we can generate enough interest and they move ahead in C.A.D design, then I ask everyone on what we want and need for our cobras, as far as height, mounts, gear or belt drive, accessories, apx psi/boost, expected HP/TQ, (of course, dependent on engine parameters) ect......
First question and most important- Would you be very interested ?
Second question-
Ford FE/Side oiler ? (our main purpose engine)
Ford Small Block. (possible,..351 cu.) ?
Total Cost Of System ? (let's be real guys)
$6,000
$5,000
$4,000
$3,250
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Then we can discuss details and answer a lot more questions.
My primary wants & needs, is to develop a supercharger similar to what Ford & Shelby had in the two cars that were built with the Paxton's. Nothing too radical, producing around 600-750 HP, with mild boost. Through the years, I've had many tell me to use turbo's, but I'll never have one, or two, in my cobra. That would be more for a modern & hot rodded cobra, which is fine, but not for me. That also means several more products, work & heat build up versus a centrifugal supercharger.
And best of all, more true to a cobra.
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10-01-2011, 05:29 PM
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what you want has been done, repeatedly.
the designs are out there already, especially if you want to 'recreate' the original design.
what I'd be more interested in is some kind of intake, something along the lines of a DCOE crossram or center-front opening plenum style (obviously fuel injected) that might possibly fit under a stock hood, or at least under a hood without needing the horrendous-looking domed hood blister that Shelby needed.
that project would add something new to the world of FE's and Cobras: a modern injection, low-profile blower manifold.
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10-01-2011, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Even though the information here is very interesting and informative, let's please get back to the purpose of my thread.
Thank you.
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still can't see what you are offering that Cobra Automotive or Paradise Wheels doesn't already sell ?
Vintage single Paxton on a small block ? they have it. On a big block ? they have it too. Dual Paxtons ? no problem, they both will fix you up.
Are you wanting to use a different brand supercharger, or modern Paxton, or sell a supercharger of your own manufacture ? The vintage Paxton market, however, seems well serviced by existing companies.
Z.
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10-02-2011, 08:13 AM
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Dumpling- "what I'd be more interested in is some kind of intake, something along the lines of a DCOE crossram or center-front opening plenum style (obviously fuel injected) that might possibly fit under a stock hood, or at least under a hood without needing the horrendous-looking domed hood blister that Shelby needed.
that project would add something new to the world of FE's and Cobras: a modern injection, low-profile blower manifold."
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You've red my mind, you're very talented.
The company is Paxton/Vortech. We spoke about developing a smaller hat, brackets & accessories to fit under our hoods without the big fat hood scoop.
We can all discuss it in detail now, adding our thoughts of what we need and want for our cobras, to update & bring the power & technology to todays cobra. Then I'll report the ideas to them.
I pitched my idea to a magazine about updating Shelby's/Ford's original 1966 427 Super Snake, and showed real interest, if we can come up low profile & modern system.
One idea was like what Dumpling has mentioned, including either a carb or what I prefer, is updating to fuel injection.
Question's- does anyone know how tall the original system is from the engines deck to the top of the hat ? Paradise Wheels supercharger
Since a lot of todays cobras have about the same hood scoop, we'll also need to know the average measurement from the top of the hat to the bottom scoop, so most cars can utilize the system without changing the scoop.
DO WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE GEAR DRIVE ? (steering rack ect.)

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