Cobra: CSX2009 - Page 2

jeffy · #1 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Jeffy (what are you 13) I have had my fun with you but I can only take so much nonsense, Good by.

Good riddance.

Slither · #2 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 05:09 PM

jeffy, since you are so close to Watkins Glen, are you planning on coming to SAAC 37? Oh, SAAC means Shelby American Automobile Club. But all replicas of Shelby Cobras are welcome to attend. And don't forget to bring that "more accurate than CSX2009" ERA with you! Looking forward to seeing it!

jeffy · #3 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Slither

jeffy, since you are so close to Watkins Glen, are you planning on coming to SAAC 37? Oh, SAAC means Shelby American Automobile Club. But all replicas of Shelby Cobras are welcome to attend. And don't forget to bring that "more accurate than CSX2009" ERA with you! Looking forward to seeing it!

I'd pay to avoid it. Snooze.

RACER X #99 · #4 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slither

jeffy, since you are so close to Watkins Glen, are you planning on coming to SAAC 37? Oh, SAAC means Shelby American Automobile Club. But all replicas of Shelby Cobras are welcome to attend. And don't forget to bring that "more accurate than CSX2009" ERA with you! Looking forward to seeing it!

I don't wish to stir the pot any longer but what a fantastic idea. There will be more original Cobras and probably the best crop of Cobra replicas in recent history all assembled in one place.
Then of course there will be more Cobra experts in attendance and what better place to show off a masterpiece of Cobra correctness. I can't wait to see this perfect example myself.
If this car is as perfect as he claims there is no reason not to put it up on the big stage.

Unless of course it's not really his car.
Hmmmm

jeffy · #5 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Unless of course it's not really his car.
Hmmmm

Well, exactly whose car would it be, then? Did I just fabricate out of thin air a 29 page build thread?

"Inspirations" for my ERA 289

And look, what just so happens to be the first "inspiration" posted in the thread?

ZOERA-SC7XX · #6 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 06:23 PM

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

jeffy · #7 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

Hey, I wasn't the snob lecturing others that they had "some nerve" for critiquing a mongrel car because they didn't own one themselves. That would be Racer dude.

RACER X #99 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

Yes EH was a pompous ass and I guess he wore out his welcome here with his tude but in all the post he made and with all the claims of "REAL" not once did he stoop low enough to critique an original Cobra as not being up to "his standards"
And in all fairness to EH his Cobra was a real Shelby Cobra,maybe not an original but certainly more real than what little Jeffy boy can ever claim.

I would like to see Jeffy (have you ever heard an adult call himself Jeffy?) discuss his feelings on CSX 2009 over here,The Official SAAC Forum - Index

jeffy · #9 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

I would like to see Jeffy (have you ever heard an adult call himself Jeffy?) discuss his feelings on CSX 2009 over here,The Official SAAC Forum - Index

Done.

CSX2009

jeffy · #10 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffy

Done.

CSX2009

Oh, snap! The moderator there took out all the taunting BS RACER X #99 said to me and closed the thread! Looks like you guys would rather run and hide when someone takes you up. Challenge someone to debate on your home turf then scamper off with the ball and go home. Lame, but predictable.

Jeff

mrmustang · #11 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffy

Oh, snap! The moderator there took out all the taunting BS RACER X #99 said to me and closed the thread! Looks like you guys would rather run and hide when someone takes you up. Challenge someone to debate on your home turf then scamper off with the ball and go home. Lame, but predictable.

Jeff

Sorry to disagree, but posting a personal attack is what got that thread closed. Cross threads like this one and that one bring both forums down to a level they should never be at in the first place. I'll leave it at that.....

Bill S.

ZOERA-SC7XX · #12 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 08:30 PM

Jeffy, I agree with you. This site is pretty much designed for all of us fake Cobra owners and our many different opinions about stuff relating to our hobby. I think it's a great site and I've been around for several years. I also built my own ERA, and I built it as I interpreted an original would be like. I don't usually beat up other guys here with their own interpretations, but when a bully comes around and says a checkbook makes his stuff better than our stuff, that really gets my goat. Many of these guys couldn't build a hen house if their life depended on it, never mind a running automoblie. As for the justification of 'Real' parts cars, there may be dozens of 'Real' Cobras out there with questionable pedigree mixed in with the pure originals. We've all heard the stories of cars being built from the parts of one or several others. Paperwork is not that hard to manufacture, much easier to do than to counterfeit money. As a result, I suspect some of these 'Real' Cobras may be not much more original than my own fake Cobra, just a lot more expensive. Don't get me wrong, I've met many original Cobra owners who were quite humble, but there are assholes in every group. Don't let these guys get to you, they probably drive Miatas.

jeffy · #13 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Jeffy, I agree with you. This site is pretty much designed for all of us fake Cobra owners and our many different opinions about stuff relating to our hobby. I think it's a great site and I've been around for several years. I also built my own ERA, and I built it as I interpreted an original would be like. I don't usually beat up other guys here with their own interpretations, but when a bully comes around and says a checkbook makes his stuff better than our stuff, that really gets my goat. Many of these guys couldn't build a hen house if their life depended on it, never mind a running automoblie. As for the justification of 'Real' parts cars, there may be dozens of 'Real' Cobras out there with questionable pedigree mixed in with the pure originals. We've all heard the stories of cars being built from the parts of one or several others. Paperwork is not that hard to manufacture, much easier to do than to counterfeit money. As a result, I suspect some of these 'Real' Cobras may be not much more original than my own fake Cobra, just a lot more expensive. Don't get me wrong, I've met many original Cobra owners who were quite humble, but there are assholes in every group. Don't let these guys get to you, they probably drive Miatas.

Cool! My bad, I thought you were with the bad guys. Rock on, my brother!

Jeff

RodKnock · #14 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 08:01 AM

Since we're giving opinions. Here's mine.

2009 was raced, crashed and rebuilt. So what? Sounds like thousands of other race cars, including many racing pedigreed Ferrari's that are worth millions.

You should read the pages of Keith Martin's Sports Car Market. There's usually a story each month that reads like 2009.

BMK · #15 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 09:12 AM

Interesting Thread..

Why can I predict where this is heading. Guns drawn at midday..

Interestingly, I watched/viewed a similar Thread on the Porsche site where an original owner of a 356 Speedster was asked if he thought copies (their term for replica cars) of original cars in anyway devalued or increased the value of his original car.

He simply said that original speedsters with history were just that - original. Adding that some of the so called copies had far better handling and internal comforts than his car. Stereos, carpet, padded seating, interior door trims, carpet in trunks and extra gauges to name a few observations he made. Observations not criticism..

But reading the Thread left me in no doubt that he enjoyed his 356 Speedster for what it was - an original car that was hard to start, leaked oil, was due for an engine rebuild and excited him every time he climbed in it to recreate some of it's history all over again.

And his observation was that his neighbor in his Beck Speedster had a far better finished and drivable car than his would ever be.

My Mums Mona Lisa in the pool room is getting more valuable every minute..

Just my dollars worth ($0.02)

Hey guys by the way with our dollar at $1.04 US at the moment you had better all watch out...

BMK · #16 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 09:35 AM

Mmm CSX2009 I see you watching with interest.

Good luck on the sale - if not already sold.

Sent/posted a visitors message on your personal site.

Basically, it would be in my garage in what you guys call ..'a NY minute'.. if I had spare cash. The restoration looks great.

Perhaps when I sell and retire I may just get one..

Silicone are they real - me I am not game to ask my neighbors wife..

twobjshelbys · #17 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:07 PM

It's a cool Cobra in its current form and I would love to have an hour with it to take some pictures.

(Trying to get the thread back on topic

)

Slither · #18 (**permalink**) 12-04-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

It's a cool Cobra in its current form and I would love to have an hour with it to take some pictures.

(Trying to get the thread back on topic

)

twobjshelbys,

I DID have the opportunity to photograph this outstanding car. In fact, I was lucky enough to drive the car (2 blocks) in Monterey in 2010! Plus, I transported it from Arizona to Monterey for the auctions. I babysat that car for half a week alongside the owners. I was also standing with the throng of people when the car was on the block. CSX2009 brought more attention than the featured cars. You should have seen the owners mile wide grin when he drove it in to place on the block. Photos don't do this car justice! It is a piece of history! Who ever purchases this car will definitely be the owner of a very fine Shelby Cobra. I hope we will get a chance to see it on a race course once again!

RET_COP · #19 (**permalink**) 12-04-2011, 08:12 AM

I'm a proud owner of a replica like most of us on this site. I have high regard for original cobra's and their owners. I'm not taking up sides in this argument but in the course of arguing against Jeffy's opinion there was some tough comments said against Cobra replica's. The point could have been made without the hit. Most of us know the situation between original and replica and embrace it. Lets get back to some constructive talk.
Lou

ZOERA-SC7XX · #20 (**permalink**) 12-04-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RET_COP

I'm a proud owner of a replica like most of us on this site. I have high regard for original cobra's and their owners. I'm not taking up sides in this argument but in the course of arguing against Jeffy's opinion there was some tough comments said against Cobra replica's. The point could have been made without the hit. Most of us know the situation between original and replica and embrace it. Lets get back to some constructive talk.
Lou

That's the thing that got my goat was the trash talk against fake (replica) Cobras, as that's what this site primarily caters to. That took the steam out of anything constructive that was trying to be said, and by then it was out of control and time to choose up sides. Most of us who frequent this site spent more than ten times the money on our fakes than what original Cobras ever sold for, and they are, for the most part great cars. They are not original Cobras. Original Cobras have their own forum. What we do here is banter, tease and break balls, not attack those of us who have another opinion. If I wanted to hear about original Cobras, I wouldn't be here, I'd be over there.