Cobra: CSX2009 - Page 3

jeffy · #41 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Slither

jeffy, since you are so close to Watkins Glen, are you planning on coming to SAAC 37? Oh, SAAC means Shelby American Automobile Club. But all replicas of Shelby Cobras are welcome to attend. And don't forget to bring that "more accurate than CSX2009" ERA with you! Looking forward to seeing it!

I'd pay to avoid it. Snooze.

RACER X #99 · #42 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slither

jeffy, since you are so close to Watkins Glen, are you planning on coming to SAAC 37? Oh, SAAC means Shelby American Automobile Club. But all replicas of Shelby Cobras are welcome to attend. And don't forget to bring that "more accurate than CSX2009" ERA with you! Looking forward to seeing it!

I don't wish to stir the pot any longer but what a fantastic idea. There will be more original Cobras and probably the best crop of Cobra replicas in recent history all assembled in one place.
Then of course there will be more Cobra experts in attendance and what better place to show off a masterpiece of Cobra correctness. I can't wait to see this perfect example myself.
If this car is as perfect as he claims there is no reason not to put it up on the big stage.

Unless of course it's not really his car.
Hmmmm

ZOERA-SC7XX · #43 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 07:23 PM

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

jeffy · #44 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Unless of course it's not really his car.
Hmmmm

Well, exactly whose car would it be, then? Did I just fabricate out of thin air a 29 page build thread?

"Inspirations" for my ERA 289

And look, what just so happens to be the first "inspiration" posted in the thread?

jeffy · #45 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

Hey, I wasn't the snob lecturing others that they had "some nerve" for critiquing a mongrel car because they didn't own one themselves. That would be Racer dude.

ZOERA-SC7XX · #46 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 09:30 PM

Jeffy, I agree with you. This site is pretty much designed for all of us fake Cobra owners and our many different opinions about stuff relating to our hobby. I think it's a great site and I've been around for several years. I also built my own ERA, and I built it as I interpreted an original would be like. I don't usually beat up other guys here with their own interpretations, but when a bully comes around and says a checkbook makes his stuff better than our stuff, that really gets my goat. Many of these guys couldn't build a hen house if their life depended on it, never mind a running automoblie. As for the justification of 'Real' parts cars, there may be dozens of 'Real' Cobras out there with questionable pedigree mixed in with the pure originals. We've all heard the stories of cars being built from the parts of one or several others. Paperwork is not that hard to manufacture, much easier to do than to counterfeit money. As a result, I suspect some of these 'Real' Cobras may be not much more original than my own fake Cobra, just a lot more expensive. Don't get me wrong, I've met many original Cobra owners who were quite humble, but there are assholes in every group. Don't let these guys get to you, they probably drive Miatas.

jeffy · #47 (**permalink**) 12-02-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Jeffy, I agree with you. This site is pretty much designed for all of us fake Cobra owners and our many different opinions about stuff relating to our hobby. I think it's a great site and I've been around for several years. I also built my own ERA, and I built it as I interpreted an original would be like. I don't usually beat up other guys here with their own interpretations, but when a bully comes around and says a checkbook makes his stuff better than our stuff, that really gets my goat. Many of these guys couldn't build a hen house if their life depended on it, never mind a running automoblie. As for the justification of 'Real' parts cars, there may be dozens of 'Real' Cobras out there with questionable pedigree mixed in with the pure originals. We've all heard the stories of cars being built from the parts of one or several others. Paperwork is not that hard to manufacture, much easier to do than to counterfeit money. As a result, I suspect some of these 'Real' Cobras may be not much more original than my own fake Cobra, just a lot more expensive. Don't get me wrong, I've met many original Cobra owners who were quite humble, but there are assholes in every group. Don't let these guys get to you, they probably drive Miatas.

Cool! My bad, I thought you were with the bad guys. Rock on, my brother!

Jeff

RACER X #99 · #48 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX

Wow. I thought Evan was a pompous ass, but at least he was entertaining. Why would a 'Real' Cobra owner like this guy dirty his fingers on this site, pissing on cars we waited all our life to have, when he can dip them in caviar writing with the other 'Real' Cobra owners at the SAAC site? Might it be that he gets off rattling his 'jewelry' here because he'd be laughed off the 'Real' site?
It's not the car that's a turnoff as much as it's the stuffed shirt owner.

Yes EH was a pompous ass and I guess he wore out his welcome here with his tude but in all the post he made and with all the claims of "REAL" not once did he stoop low enough to critique an original Cobra as not being up to "his standards"
And in all fairness to EH his Cobra was a real Shelby Cobra,maybe not an original but certainly more real than what little Jeffy boy can ever claim.

I would like to see Jeffy (have you ever heard an adult call himself Jeffy?) discuss his feelings on CSX 2009 over here,The Official SAAC Forum - Index

RodKnock · #49 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 09:01 AM

Since we're giving opinions. Here's mine.

2009 was raced, crashed and rebuilt. So what? Sounds like thousands of other race cars, including many racing pedigreed Ferrari's that are worth millions.

You should read the pages of Keith Martin's Sports Car Market. There's usually a story each month that reads like 2009.

Blue66 · #50 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by computerworks

What you seem to miss is that one can restore a car to please oneself and not the spectators. The current owner never meant to restore in as-raced form... just to restore to have a driver that could vintage race. That's what pleased him.

X2 !!!! I have a car thats been hidden since 1975. Why ?? Because can't stand listening to guys like this !!

BMK · #51 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 10:12 AM

Interesting Thread..

Why can I predict where this is heading. Guns drawn at midday..

Interestingly, I watched/viewed a similar Thread on the Porsche site where an original owner of a 356 Speedster was asked if he thought copies (their term for replica cars) of original cars in anyway devalued or increased the value of his original car.

He simply said that original speedsters with history were just that - original. Adding that some of the so called copies had far better handling and internal comforts than his car. Stereos, carpet, padded seating, interior door trims, carpet in trunks and extra gauges to name a few observations he made. Observations not criticism..

But reading the Thread left me in no doubt that he enjoyed his 356 Speedster for what it was - an original car that was hard to start, leaked oil, was due for an engine rebuild and excited him every time he climbed in it to recreate some of it's history all over again.

And his observation was that his neighbor in his Beck Speedster had a far better finished and drivable car than his would ever be.

My Mums Mona Lisa in the pool room is getting more valuable every minute..

Just my dollars worth ($0.02)

Hey guys by the way with our dollar at $1.04 US at the moment you had better all watch out...

BMK · #52 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 10:35 AM

Mmm CSX2009 I see you watching with interest.

Good luck on the sale - if not already sold.

Sent/posted a visitors message on your personal site.

Basically, it would be in my garage in what you guys call ..'a NY minute'.. if I had spare cash. The restoration looks great.

Perhaps when I sell and retire I may just get one..

Silicone are they real - me I am not game to ask my neighbors wife..

jeffy · #53 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

I would like to see Jeffy (have you ever heard an adult call himself Jeffy?) discuss his feelings on CSX 2009 over here,The Official SAAC Forum - Index

Done.

CSX2009

jeffy · #54 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffy

Done.

CSX2009

Oh, snap! The moderator there took out all the taunting BS RACER X #99 said to me and closed the thread! Looks like you guys would rather run and hide when someone takes you up. Challenge someone to debate on your home turf then scamper off with the ball and go home. Lame, but predictable.

Jeff

mrmustang · #55 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffy

Oh, snap! The moderator there took out all the taunting BS RACER X #99 said to me and closed the thread! Looks like you guys would rather run and hide when someone takes you up. Challenge someone to debate on your home turf then scamper off with the ball and go home. Lame, but predictable.

Jeff

Sorry to disagree, but posting a personal attack is what got that thread closed. Cross threads like this one and that one bring both forums down to a level they should never be at in the first place. I'll leave it at that.....

Bill S.

jeffy · #56 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang

Sorry to disagree, but posting a personal attack is what got that thread closed. Cross threads like this one and that one bring both forums down to a level they should never be at in the first place. I'll leave it at that.....

Bill S.

Personal attack? This comment that is still up there?

I just wanted to show you all what kind of members you have going around giving the SAAC a bad name.

That's pretty thin skin, particularly after RACER X #99 (ever hear of an adult call himself RACER X #99??) said this, which his friend the moderator deleted to protect the guilty:

You have some nerve critiquing somebody's real Cobra when all you own is a replica.

And more that I didn't post where his friends could see how poorly he behaves when he isn't at home:

Yours is just a kit car or like some like to say PSB (not aluminum)

If it makes you feel any better your not alone as there seems to be a lot of guys out there like you.

Fortunately not many of them own real Cobras.

That guy was a Moron and others just like him are Morons also.

I think my characterization of RACER X #99 was quite mild.

Jeff

Nedsel · #57 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:31 PM

I'm left trying to figure out the point of Jeffy's comment on the SAAC site, "I just wanted to show you all what kind of members you have giving SAAC a bad name." Huh? Let's hope you are not a SAAC member, Jeffy, as your comments are the only ones out of place. As has been said before, you don't post your personal opinions slamming someone else's car when you have no connection at all with it or the seller. Is that clear enough?

jeffy · #58 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedsel

I'm left trying to figure out the point of Jeffy's comment on the SAAC site, "I just wanted to show you all what kind of members you have giving SAAC a bad name." Huh? Let's hope you are not a SAAC member, Jeffy, as your comments are the only ones out of place. As has been said before, you don't post your personal opinions slamming someone else's car when you have no connection at all with it or the seller. Is that clear enough?

You're kidding, right? So you think snobby, condescending, elitest garbage (for example, "plastic **** box") like that dispensed by RACER X #99 has any kind of place in THIS WORLD let alone on an internet forum? Words fail me.

And if you don't want people to express an opinion about your car when it's being sold on the internet, market it privately. Is that clear enough?

Jeff

computerworks · #59 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:47 PM

Enough of this crap.

I suggested you cool off, now it's not a suggestion.

Strong advice: walk away from this thread

Thanks

ron
ClubCobra Moderator

RACER X #99 · #60 (**permalink**) 12-03-2011, 12:59 PM

[quote=jeffy;1164150 (ever hear of an adult call himself RACER X #99??)

Jeff[/QUOTE]

Uh RACER X was already taken what was I supposed to do?