|
Quote:
The fact that I own a replica is totally irrelevant. Why do you keep bringing it up? Anyone with a pair of eyes and access to the internet can verify that every critique I have made of the CSX2009 rebuild is true. The experts' opinions on what the car might sell for don't change these facts one way or another. Jeff |
Quote:
I could not care less who I'm "sparring" with (two "r"s, btw). First, the facts are the facts and, second, I'm entitled to my opinion. If in Shelby-world this car can bring over a $1million, that is a very nice windfall for Erik and his family. That doesn't change the facts or my opinion. Jeff |
I told Bill I would take the high road and I am.
|
Quote:
I believe that when you cross post an argument from one forum to another that it is in bad taste. All it does is bring bad blood from one web site to another and does nothing but bring both sites down. On Clubhotrod.com (which I also moderate),the sister site of clubcobra, I have a pretty heavy hand when it comes to head games like this. As such I freely admit I was a bit heavy handed with your post at the SAACforum, again, the post above shows why, if you can't see the real reason why it was removed I'm sorry, perhaps when your emotions calm down you will. Inclosing, while I do understand your emotionally charged response to a point, I honestly believe you need to also take a step back, a deep breath,and also take the high road and let this argument disappear into the archives.Again, agree to disagree and leave it at that, you'll be the better man for it... Sincerely, Bill S. PS: Don't take it personal, don't make it personal, that is how I try to roll these days, wish everyone else would as well. |
Quote:
So, in other words, there was no "unwarranted personal attack" by me. Thought so. Jeff |
Quote:
Your whole cross posted post to the saacforum was unwarranted as was the attempts to stir the pot. Your continued "venom" toward anyone who does not agree with you is apparent, as such, I am now taking my own advice. Here is wishing you well. Bill S. |
Quote:
2009's history is recorded, in detail, in the SAAC archives. So, whoever owns 2009 next may decide to restore it again, according to his or her tastes, which may in fact mirror your personal taste. It's only about time and money. |
Quote:
It's OK if you want to change your story, but don't act like I'm the bad guy for calling you out. I did not make an "unwanted personal attack" on RACER X #99 and you should not have said that I did. Jeff |
Quote:
A point none of the "experts" has raised is that CSX2557 sold for $1.6mm and did not have the race history of this car. If it didn't matter how the current owner chose to rebuild CSX2009, then why doesn't it command at least that amount and more? BTW, my personal taste has nothing to do with it. The car is simply an inauthentic replica of a 1964 competition car with bits of a 1963 competition car thrown in. Those are facts, not opinion. Jeff |
Quote:
Fact of the matter is...the current owner could sell this car with a steaming turd on the hood and it will still have some most of us will never have....this: http://www.carrollshelbymerchandise....AQUEAC-1-W.jpg |
Quote:
But we all know that auction prices may vary due to time, place, people, etc. So, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on auction prices to form a complete valuation of each car myself. Just reading Keith Martin's Sports Car Market auction magazine, the variables at auctions are numerous including alcohol consumption. Having said that, 2557 may just be a better and more faithfully original CSX, and I gather that from your statements on the matter. BUT, to say that 2009 doesn’t exist anymore, is a fantasy recreation or that your ERA is more real is just NOT correct IMHO. |
Quote:
It is fair to say that CSX2557 is an unmolested 1964 competition car. BTW, I did not say my car was "more real". However, visually, it is a more authentic reproduction of a 1964 competition car than CSX2009, at least in my opinion. If anyone disagrees, please be specific. With respect to these experts' opinions, I'm really not buying it. With each telling, it gets less credible. Just look at CSX2009 as it now exists: you are trying to tell me that is a "rebuilt race car" that just happened to wind up looking this way? It is obvious that it is a poorly conceived hodge-podge of CSX2002 and someone's idea of a 1964 competition car, that was built to be a trailer queen first and a racer a very distant second, if at all (there is no roll-cage, no race seat, no race mirrors, on and on). Obviously, that is why its value is significantly lower than CSX2557. Jeff |
Me thinks Jeffy suffers from CSX envy. If not why dedicate so much time to bashing it and trying to defend your position? Grow up and move on
|
Quote:
First, I don't think I'm "bashing" CSX2009: I think I am dispassionately describing what it is. There is no intent to "bash" or "promote" (as others are quite clearly trying to do): just get at the facts. Really, whats the big deal? It is obvious what CSX2009 is and isn't. I'm not the one trying to bend the truth. Why should I? Makes no difference to me. On your second point, I don't roll over. So long as there are posters that want to engage with me, bring it on. I'm game. Jeff |
Quote:
|
| All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:16 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: