Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289FIA 2131, 331 stroker by Dan Dalena with 48 IDAs by Jim Inglese, AC Cars AC8 "Rosso Chiaro" (PPG Nexa code FG39) by Connecticut Custom
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We just see things differently. Was anything I wrote about the build untrue?
And, what's with this "sticking my nose where it doesn't belong" nonsense? This is a public thread ON THE INTERNET discussing a car for sale! I need to join the Grey Poupon club to express an opinion? Good grief.
Cobra Make, Engine: SOLD: 2013 Boss 302 Mustang #2775 (both options). SOLD: 95 Mustang Cobra R #4 of 250 "Rosie's Diner" car. SOLD: CCX2-2505, #5 of 7 289 FIAs ever produced at Contemporary! my first Cobra: Unique 427SC w/ 428CJ moder!
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I've owned two PSBs...no problem...built one myself, rebuilt the other...always a hands on guy.
PSBs??? we used to joke about this here on CC...rib each other all the time...most guys had fun...some...not so much. Too serious.
But I think we all know that this car has provenance...who cares how many times its been rebuilt...many of these original cars were hacked up from the get go. I still like to shake that hands of the guys that still drive them...or race them.
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But I think we all know that this car has provenance...who cares how many times its been rebuilt...many of these original cars were hacked up from the get go. I still like to shake that hands of the guys that still drive them...or race them.
Jeff, I think John expresses my thoughts the best.
2009's history is recorded, in detail, in the SAAC archives. So, whoever owns 2009 next may decide to restore it again, according to his or her tastes, which may in fact mirror your personal taste.
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Jeff, I think John expresses my thoughts the best.
2009's history is recorded, in detail, in the SAAC archives. So, whoever owns 2009 next may decide to restore it again, according to his or her tastes, which may in fact mirror your personal taste.
It's only about time and money.
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A point none of the "experts" has raised is that CSX2557 sold for $1.6mm and did not have the race history of this car. If it didn't matter how the current owner chose to rebuild CSX2009, then why doesn't it command at least that amount and more?
BTW, my personal taste has nothing to do with it. The car is simply an inauthentic replica of a 1964 competition car with bits of a 1963 competition car thrown in. Those are facts, not opinion.
A point none of the "experts" has raised is that CSX2557 sold for $1.6mm and did not have the race history of this car. If it didn't matter how the current owner chose to rebuild CSX2009, then why doesn't it command at least that amount and more?
BTW, my personal taste has nothing to do with it. The car is simply an inauthentic replica of a 1964 competition car with bits of a 1963 competition car thrown in. Those are facts, not opinion.
Jeff
I have no clue about what 2557 and 2009 have sold for, will sell for or about the their value at all. I'm not an expert.
But we all know that auction prices may vary due to time, place, people, etc. So, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on auction prices to form a complete valuation of each car myself. Just reading Keith Martin's Sports Car Market auction magazine, the variables at auctions are numerous including alcohol consumption.
Having said that, 2557 may just be a better and more faithfully original CSX, and I gather that from your statements on the matter. BUT, to say that 2009 doesn’t exist anymore, is a fantasy recreation or that your ERA is more real is just NOT correct IMHO.
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Having said that, 2557 may just be a better and more faithfully original CSX, and I gather that from your statements on the matter. BUT, to say that 2009 doesn’t exist anymore, is a fantasy recreation or that your ERA is more real is just NOT correct IMHO.
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It is fair to say that CSX2557 is an unmolested 1964 competition car.
BTW, I did not say my car was "more real". However, visually, it is a more authentic reproduction of a 1964 competition car than CSX2009, at least in my opinion. If anyone disagrees, please be specific.
With respect to these experts' opinions, I'm really not buying it. With each telling, it gets less credible. Just look at CSX2009 as it now exists: you are trying to tell me that is a "rebuilt race car" that just happened to wind up looking this way? It is obvious that it is a poorly conceived hodge-podge of CSX2002 and someone's idea of a 1964 competition car, that was built to be a trailer queen first and a racer a very distant second, if at all (there is no roll-cage, no race seat, no race mirrors, on and on). Obviously, that is why its value is significantly lower than CSX2557.
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Jeff, I think John expresses my thoughts the best.
2009's history is recorded, in detail, in the SAAC archives. So, whoever owns 2009 next may decide to restore it again, according to his or her tastes, which may in fact mirror your personal taste.
It's only about time and money.
correct! Its a race car...regardless of its history...it was still raced...it was still wrecked...it was modified over and over...at what point in time do you then say..."THIS" is how CSX2009 should look??? it was used, abused, tossed away and then brought back from the dead.
Fact of the matter is...the current owner could sell this car with a steaming turd on the hood and it will still have some most of us will never have....this:
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