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Silversmith 01-20-2012 06:08 PM
Superformance & ERA 15" rims & others?
 
Can these pin drive 15" rims (5 or 6 pin) from different mfg.'s ie- Superformance, era, csx, inter change with each other? Or as a rule; are they required to be used on org. hubs from each mfg.? As a rook to pin drive/hub set up's, thought I would ask.%/
Thanks:

patrickt 01-20-2012 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Silversmith (Post 1171842)
Can these pin drive 15" rims (5 or 6 pin) from different mfg.'s ie- Superformance, era, csx, inter change with each other? Or as a rule; are they required to be used on org. hubs from each mfg.? As a rook to pin drive/hub set up's, thought I would ask.%/
Thanks:
I will speak only to the true, 6 pin drive system from ERA, since that is what I have. They use a different backspacing on the front wheels (ie, not original Cobra backspacing), so "no" you can't use them elsewhere without modifications. And I'm not even sure if you can get a 6 pin system from anybody but the "big three" (ERA, CSX, KMS).

RACER X #99 01-21-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1171851)
I will speak only to the true, 6 pin drive system from ERA, since that is what I have. They use a different backspacing on the front wheels (ie, not original Cobra backspacing), so "no" you can't use them elsewhere without modifications. And I'm not even sure if you can get a 6 pin system from anybody but the "big three" (ERA, CSX, KMS).
Is ERA now making aluminum bodied cars?Unless they are I would have to place ERA behind CSX and KMC as the best Fiberglass car for show and FFR the best race cars.(FFR spec racer that is).
Just saying.;)

patrickt 01-21-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RACER X #99 (Post 1171981)
Is ERA now making aluminum bodied cars?Unless they are I would have to place ERA behind CSX and KMC as the best Fiberglass car for show and FFR the best race cars.(FFR spec racer that is).
Just saying.;)
Uhhh, ok... and that has what to do with the OP's post?:p But it did occur to me that one of the Superformance FIAs has 6 pins, I think.

Riverside racer 01-21-2012 06:39 PM
Seeing that Hi Tech South Africa cast and machine their OWN uprights and the spllned hubs for the 289 roadster as well as their OWN six pin hub for the FIA, possibly Superformance should get a mention. Original AC factory drawings used.
To answer the question tho`,All the car manufacturers use the same wheels be it 5 or 6 pin and it depends on what upright is chosen to determine what hub adaptor is reqd.
Take a look at Vintage or Trigo websites to see their variations of adaptors and wheels available.
PS ENGINEERING can make same style wheels with different offsets if so required. You don`t mention what car you have.
Regards
Ross

Hydramada 01-21-2012 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside racer (Post 1171989)
PS ENGINEERING can make same style wheels with different offsets if so required. You don`t mention what car you have.
Regards
Ross
Is Phil at PSE still making wheels?

LMH 01-21-2012 11:59 PM
Hey Ross
A little off topic but will the hubs from Hi Tech SA fit hub carriers on original cars? Are they a copy of original stuff?
Larry

tkb289 01-22-2012 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydramada (Post 1172017)
Is Phil at PSE still making wheels?

Phil made a set of wheels for my ERA FIA about a year ago ... best bet is to give him a call.

Here is a link to his web page:

PS Vintage Wheels Contact Page

Silversmith 01-22-2012 04:14 AM
Sry, I have just purchased a ERA 427, & not real happy w/tire selection avalible on15's. Thinking about changing to 17's

TButtrick 01-22-2012 05:17 AM
There is good information on the Vintage Wheels tech pages on backspacing and such. Superformance uses the original six pin design which are Vintage Wheels. If you had an orignal car with six pin, (6pin x 4.25)their wheels bolt right up. Same six pin pattern. They also have adapters to bolt up to 5 lug rotors and 5 on 4.5 ,5 on 4.75 patterns. Vintage Wheels makes a great knock-off, knock-off. :)

RACER X #99 01-22-2012 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1171984)
Uhhh, ok... and that has what to do with the OP's post?:p But it did occur to me that one of the Superformance FIAs has 6 pins, I think.
The point being that other replica manufacturers
have used the six pin wheels including the out of production Contemporary.
Just pointing out that ERA is not the only company that has upgraded their builds over the years.
It's nice that you own an ERA but please, don't try to put them in the same league with Shelby and Kirkham.:LOL:

patrickt 01-22-2012 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RACER X #99 (Post 1172058)
The point being that other replica manufacturers have used the six pin wheels...
OK, what 427 cars can you buy, that are built today, that have 6 pin hubs besides the "big three?" :confused:

TButtrick 01-22-2012 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1172060)
OK, what 427 cars can you buy, that are built today, that have 6 pin hubs besides the "big three?" :confused:
I think ERA is the only other kit car you can buy with 6 pin hubs other than the "big two". Shelby America and Kirkham are replicas. The rest are kits cars.

patrickt 01-22-2012 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TButtrick (Post 1172061)
I think ERA is the only other kit car you can buy with 6 pin hubs other than the "big two".
I think you're right. ;) But a twitch snare for ol' Racer X #99 could always provide some amusement... providing he sticks his head in it.:LOL:

Silversmith 01-22-2012 10:40 AM
WOW

The way u guys argue about who's who in roadster mfg's. Mabe u should just get married:JEKYLHYDE Each mfg. has their strong points; otherwise they wouldn't be selling roadsters very long. FFR, ERA, CSX, SPF,Kirkam, etc., there all good. I started out in high school in the 53rd CSX/260cid AC ever built, also a 64/289 slabside, 66/427 sideoiler & a 68/428 AC. not to mention others like the GT350 & 500's, 300 SEL's, Healeys & Jags. My dear friends old man was a collector. Yes, I had a blessed time as a youth! My 2nd car owned, was a 66/GT 350. Paid $1,500, sold it in pieces, what a fool!! I loved them all, but I never got over the AC's. Point being, if you own any roadster from almost any mfg. you are truly blessed in this world:MECOOL: Of course if the above banter is jus between friends, EXCUSE ME:LOL: btw thanks for the info on the diff. in mfg. rims:D

patrickt 01-22-2012 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Silversmith (Post 1172092)
WOW

The way u guys argue about who's who in roadster mfg's. Mabe u should just get married:JEKYLHYDE Each mfg. has their strong points; otherwise they wouldn't be selling roadsters very long. FFR, ERA, CSX, SPF
You're absolutely right. The FFR boys should just be happy with what they have and not take this stuff so seriously.:rolleyes:

TButtrick 01-22-2012 10:52 AM
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with what car is better than the other. It's about whether your car could be taken seriously with more than one rollbar.

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TButtrick 01-22-2012 10:54 AM
double post

LMH 01-22-2012 01:32 PM
Here we go!
Larry

TButtrick 01-22-2012 03:07 PM
Sweet Ducati there Larry.

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