Superformance & ERA 15" rims & others?

Silversmith · #1 (**permalink**) 01-20-2012, 06:08 PM

Can these pin drive 15" rims (5 or 6 pin) from different mfg.'s ie- Superformance, era, csx, inter change with each other? Or as a rule; are they required to be used on org. hubs from each mfg.? As a rook to pin drive/hub set up's, thought I would ask.

Thanks:

patrickt · #2 (**permalink**) 01-20-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Silversmith

Can these pin drive 15" rims (5 or 6 pin) from different mfg.'s ie- Superformance, era, csx, inter change with each other? Or as a rule; are they required to be used on org. hubs from each mfg.? As a rook to pin drive/hub set up's, thought I would ask.

Thanks:

I will speak only to the true, 6 pin drive system from ERA, since that is what I have. They use a different backspacing on the front wheels (ie, not original Cobra backspacing), so "no" you can't use them elsewhere without modifications. And I'm not even sure if you can get a 6 pin system from anybody but the "big three" (ERA, CSX, KMS).

RACER X #99 · #3 (**permalink**) 01-21-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

I will speak only to the true, 6 pin drive system from ERA, since that is what I have. They use a different backspacing on the front wheels (ie, not original Cobra backspacing), so "no" you can't use them elsewhere without modifications. And I'm not even sure if you can get a 6 pin system from anybody but the "big three" (ERA, CSX, KMS).

Is ERA now making aluminum bodied cars?Unless they are I would have to place ERA behind CSX and KMC as the best Fiberglass car for show and FFR the best race cars.(FFR spec racer that is).
Just saying.

patrickt · #4 (**permalink**) 01-21-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Is ERA now making aluminum bodied cars?Unless they are I would have to place ERA behind CSX and KMC as the best Fiberglass car for show and FFR the best race cars.(FFR spec racer that is).
Just saying.

Uhhh, ok... and that has what to do with the OP's post?

But it did occur to me that one of the Superformance FIAs has 6 pins, I think.

RACER X #99 · #5 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Uhhh, ok... and that has what to do with the OP's post?

But it did occur to me that one of the Superformance FIAs has 6 pins, I think.

The point being that other replica manufacturers
have used the six pin wheels including the out of production Contemporary.
Just pointing out that ERA is not the only company that has upgraded their builds over the years.
It's nice that you own an ERA but please, don't try to put them in the same league with Shelby and Kirkham.

patrickt · #6 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X #99

The point being that other replica manufacturers have used the six pin wheels...

OK, what 427 cars can you buy, that are built today, that have 6 pin hubs besides the "big three?"

Riverside racer · #7 (**permalink**) 01-21-2012, 06:39 PM

Seeing that Hi Tech South Africa cast and machine their OWN uprights and the spllned hubs for the 289 roadster as well as their OWN six pin hub for the FIA, possibly Superformance should get a mention. Original AC factory drawings used.
To answer the question tho`,All the car manufacturers use the same wheels be it 5 or 6 pin and it depends on what upright is chosen to determine what hub adaptor is reqd.
Take a look at Vintage or Trigo websites to see their variations of adaptors and wheels available.
PS ENGINEERING can make same style wheels with different offsets if so required. You don`t mention what car you have.
Regards
Ross

Hydramada · #8 (**permalink**) 01-21-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverside racer

PS ENGINEERING can make same style wheels with different offsets if so required. You don`t mention what car you have.
Regards
Ross

Is Phil at PSE still making wheels?

tkb289 · #9 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydramada

Is Phil at PSE still making wheels?

Phil made a set of wheels for my ERA FIA about a year ago ... best bet is to give him a call.

Here is a link to his web page:

PS Vintage Wheels Contact Page

LMH · #10 (**permalink**) 01-21-2012, 11:59 PM

Hey Ross
A little off topic but will the hubs from Hi Tech SA fit hub carriers on original cars? Are they a copy of original stuff?
Larry

Silversmith · #11 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 04:14 AM

Sry, I have just purchased a ERA 427, & not real happy w/tire selection avalible on15's. Thinking about changing to 17's

TButtrick · #12 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 05:17 AM

There is good information on the Vintage Wheels tech pages on backspacing and such. Superformance uses the original six pin design which are Vintage Wheels. If you had an orignal car with six pin, (6pin x 4.25)their wheels bolt right up. Same six pin pattern. They also have adapters to bolt up to 5 lug rotors and 5 on 4.5 ,5 on 4.75 patterns. Vintage Wheels makes a great knock-off, knock-off.

TButtrick · #13 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 10:52 AM

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with what car is better than the other. It's about whether your car could be taken seriously with more than one rollbar.

TButtrick · #14 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 10:54 AM

double post

LMH · #15 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 01:32 PM

Here we go!
Larry

TButtrick · #16 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 03:07 PM

Sweet Ducati there Larry.

TButtrick · #17 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 03:10 PM

..and just to keep this thread somewhat on track, sweet Trigos as well. I'll be sad when my Yokos grow thin. Love them.

LMH · #18 (**permalink**) 01-22-2012, 04:02 PM

Thanks! the Ducati isn't actually mine. It belongs to a friend of the family. It's a vintage racer both now and then.
The rims are mine though! Not sure how I feel about the full polish. Beautiful yes but the vintage look is gone. May be glass beading them but haven't totally decided yet as I have two sets.
Larry