Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1174876)

Dimis, I would pick the Ls motor over the coyote anytime, even if its a chevy, the z06 is a get up and go car, not much can touch it, just my opinion. Its one of my all time favorite engines.

Originally Posted by RACER X #99 (Post 1174886)

..... handed to them at the Rolex 24 hrs.

Originally Posted by Dimis (Post 1174866)

Hi Brent,

Initially I was drawn to the Coyote b/c of these following reasons:

1) It is Emissions compliant with our governing authorities.
An FE isn't... thus I asked myself what's the next best? %/
At the moment, IMHO I'm left with Coyote or LS7 (maybe Toyota)... Unless you can advise of another V8?

2) Powerful enough, yet bullet proof, with heaps of potential should I need the "upgrade". I understand that you can get it to (& I'm no expert on this) 5.8lts quite comfortably, which again for 99% of driving is more than enough.

3) It's light weight, modern engine package, making it a balanced & theoretically well handling car, even a nun could drive it, and I'd get plenty more miles to the gallon.
It's nice if you can afford to wipe your a$$ with $100 dollar bills when you go to the toilet or gas station, but it's also nice knowing you don't have too or need too;)

4) It is a Ford and thus of the correct manufacturer - my logic is if you could justify a SBF Windsor, then the Coyote is just as "pertinent" & "viable" (unless its a 289 or FIA), others may differ.

5) Has plenty of available parts & a growing aftermarket following. Further it could thus be serviced by any monkey dealership if I so chose or if I encountered a tech problem that I couldn't or didn't have the time, or skill, or tools to resolve.

6) I'd be confident it wouldn't leak, pop a rod, chew a gasket, or other, even if I left it siting in the garage over winter for 6months. & would/should start first kick despite this.

7) The engine would outlast the car, many times over.

I guess in a word it can be summarized for me as "Evolution"


Now that is simply my version, & given free reign and any choice of engine an FE for a SC 427 it would be.
EFI or Carb'ed... Now I'm still wrestling with that one. %/
I can justify the billet suspension in a Kirkham as a "quality improvement", why not EFI?

Kindest regards,

Originally Posted by SpecOp1 (Post 1175431)

Dimis...your assumptions are correct...I get a kick out of those that predict this engine ...I have it and it is awesome and as tunes get better the car gets more power....I could have picked any engine..I selected this one....that $6500 thing...not in a real world. As with colors, stripes, and other choices...it is what makes cars such a neat hobby....jus say'n....Bill

Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1175435)

I had a 5 litre dohc for 5 years in my spf before I sold it, the coyote is so underpowered compared to a windsor or fe its not even funny, the engine is maxed out in natural form, no new tunes can extract any more power, to gain hp naturally the only way to increase is through cubes. The engine is smooth, like a modern car, like I said to each is own

Originally Posted by RACER X #99 (Post 1175470)

Please explain
The New 5.0 Mustangs run the 1/4 in the 12's stock
The 68 428 Cobra jets ran in the 13's stock
427 Cobras stock ran in the 12's

NO reason why the Coyote 5.0 in a cobra can't run in the 11's
Plus get over 25 MPG

Perhaps your 5.0 was never tuned properly

The biggest advantage the 5.0 has over the other engines are great breathing cylinder heads which has always been the drawback to FE's

I have owned Cobras with FE SO and big cube Windsors so don't tell me about FE's

Just in case you didn't notice the top three finishers in the Rolex 24 at Daytona were all running 5.0 Coyote based engines and they ran more miles that the 427 GT's did back in the sixties.

I would never suggest anybody not run any engine of their choice but to claim the new 5.0's are underpowered simply means you really don't know much about performance engines.

Originally Posted by SpecOp1 (Post 1175477)

:rolleyes:You know we hear about your 5 year old spf a lot ...where did you own a new Coyote 5.0....when you get or drive one call us.

Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1175471)

I had this engine in my spf, it won rolex also, it was the cammer, same platform, to suggest I dont know this motor is laughable, never said it wasnt a good choice, said it was underpowered compared to an fe or windsor, I did this set up 5 years ago, I knew how cool it was then and It is cool now, but underpowered in my opinion, please dont put word into my mouth, thanks.

Originally Posted by eschaider (Post 1175724)

Dimis, the most important thing to remember is, it is your car and you are paying the tab. As is so often said, 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and in this case, you are the beholder! Choose and build to make yourself happy and of course the local emissions nazis. At the end of the day the make yourself happy approach will yield the most smiles per mile - and after all that's what its all about ...

Ed