Club Cobra - SOHC "Cammer" CSX 4786 No Reserve in Monterey

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SOHC "Cammer" CSX 4786 No Reserve in Monterey

Black: Check
Cammer: Double Check

No affiliation, but definitely drool worthy:

Russo and Steele - Collector Automobile Auctions

From the auction's ad:

"Vehicle to be offered for Auction sale WITHOUT RESERVE and SOLD to the highest bidder, August 16th- 18th, 2012 at Russo and Steele's 12th Annual Monterey California Auction. Please contact us for more information.

You are looking at an extraordinarily unique Shelby CSX Cobra. For two reasons: (1) The 427 SOHC motor is an original Ford crate motor from 10 October 1966. An icon of automotive history so rare as to take your breath away. (2) As the QA inspector for Shelby Automobiles during the production run of these vehicles, there is no question that this is a one-of-one CSX Cobra. It is uniquely-optioned by virtue of the powerplant, but it also has several features executed at the factory, that were not available as options, including a carpeted inner trunk lid, carpeted inner door panels w/map pockets and a painted underside of hood.

CSX4786 - SOHC 427FE–equipped. 'Diamond Black' finish. This beauty debuted at the annual Fabulous Fords Show in Buena Park in 2008. Registered under the coveted "SB-100" (California Senate Bill 100). —that means no smog certification, no California registration hassles for the life of the car! Under the hood: original Ford 427FE SOHC crate engine [serial# QEC-7-367]. That makes this muscle-bulging engine production number 367. To possess this engine is to possess an icon of automotive history so rare as to be priceless; auction sales of original crate motors and SOHC engines in general convincingly support that opinion. As an original crate motor it also has a Holman-Moody serial number stamped on the block boss on the right-front (of the four block bosses). CSX4786 has 6HM280 - Lastly, a date code of 6K10 is stamped onto the boss above the oil filter adapter housing. That translates to October 10th 1966: 6 = 1966, K = October and 10 = day-of-month.

Outfitted with: Holley 850 cfm double-pumper carburetor, Venolia SOHC pistons, Carrillo rods, Ford forged steel crankshaft, Ford 4V dual-plenum intake manifold, Ford HP cams, Ford magnesium SOHC valve covers [powder-coated Ford Blue], Ford SOHC-specific water pump, internals balanced, intake and exhaust valves—new, replaced, valve springs—new, replaced, head gaskets—new, replaced, billet aluminum air cleaner—custom made, surge tank—custom fabricated, Mallory magnetic-triggered distributor, MSD ignition ensemble with programmable rev limiter (set at 7,000 rpm), Shelby aluminum radiator with electric pusher fans and puller fan for cooling radiator (custom made)—note that the upper radiator hose does not (transversely) cross the engine compartment; engineered to NOT obscure the view of Ford's most beautiful engine, Canton Road Race 9-qt. aluminum oil pan with windage tray, painted underside of hood, TKO 600 [Shelby Cobra/Ford Road Race gearbox, Shelby/ Salisbury IRS], Shelby brakes, Penske race shocks].

This black-on-black beauty is fully-sorted. It was completed in April of 2008, where it had its debut at the annual Fabulous Fords extravaganza in Buena Park, California. It's been driven approximately twice a month over the last several years, accumulating about 5,000 miles. It starts, runs and drives exactly the same way each time it is taken out - that is, flawlessly. It would be fair to say this Cobra is built of only the finest components, and is truly a one-of-a-kind Shelby Cobra with THE absolute bad-boy of FoMoCo powerplants. Final footnote: The consignor is 6'-3" tall/230 lbs., and fits behind the wheel quite comfortably due to a few key (but subtle) modifications. California title shows '0000' in the year and 'SPCNS' in the make fields."

If I'm not mistaken, this is Bill Malone's car. It was offered for sale on Cobra Counntry in Feb for $150K, the same time mine sold on Curt's site.
An extensive build log was posted by Bill on Gasholes-the car is first class as he's a meticulous builder. I'm amazed it didn't sell and wound up here.

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1201736)

I'm amazed it didn't sell and wound up here.

Because, my dear Chas, we are on the precipice of a global depression, during which, cash will be king.:cool:

Not everyone wants a SOHC, I don't.

Saw an original 427 Cobra with a retrofitted SOHC

..thought it was that car. That back at the first SAAC convention. That car was driven from Colorado so it must have been set up to be pretty reliable.
I remember seeing a picture in a book of a SOHC 427 lying on the floor in some shop in the Sixties with Cobras being fabricated in the background. Could that have been the engine they were going to put in the Daytona coupe being built in Italy for the big block? I don't have the book I saw the picture in, and maybe it was some Stateside shop after all. I never read any quotes of Shelby saying it was a great engine or had potential beyond the regular 427 FE side oiler. Maybe they were exceedingly hard to get in the Sixties unless you were a drag racer.

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1201736)

If I'm not mistaken, this is Bill Malone's car. It was offered for sale on Cobra Counntry in Feb for $150K, the same time mine sold on Curt's site.

An extensive build log was posted by Bill on Gasholes-the car is first class as he's a meticulous builder. I'm amazed it didn't sell and wound up here.

As usual, you're correct. It is Bill Malone's car.

I, for one, want a Cammer. It is the pinnacle engine for me.

While I'm sure he will get big bucks no matter what, you still have to be very strong-willed to sell your car at no reserve. Global depression or not. BTW, while not applying to continuation Cobras, the very best vintage Ferrari's, "long hood" early (1969-1973) Porsche's and other prestige-type cars are hitting all time highs.

Knockers,
Thanks for the confirmation to my recollection. The three other visionarys that replied here have given us a magical fairy tale about an original with a Cammer, the stunning revelation that cash will be king, and we found out who doesn't want a Cammer.
This accumulated knowledge can only be acquired by those persons passing under high-tension wires.
To address the subject, I think if any 4000 series car is worth $130K+, it's Billy's car. It's lightly used too.

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Originally Posted by Historybuff (Post 1201745)

Wally this car could not have been at the first SAAC convention. It is a continuation car finished in 2008.

I don't think SOHC engines were hard to get in the 60s. They were just expensive. And you cannot don't just drop them into a Cobra without modifications (footboxes, etc.).

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1201763)

The three other visionarys that replied here have given us a magical fairy tale about an original with a Cammer, the stunning revelation that cash will be king, and we found out who doesn't want a Cammer. This accumulated knowledge can only be acquired by those persons passing under high-tension wires.

To address the subject, I think if any 4000 series car is worth $130K+, it's Billy's car. It's lightly used too.

1st Paragraph: :LOL:

2nd Paragraph: I've always had a soft spot for a black Cobra and then combine that with the fact that there's a Cammer under the hood. You know the only thing missing is, well, you know. I just can't say it without tears rolling down my face. :CRY:

What I find very interesting is that for someone who sung the praises of a T-50 Cammer engine (I think that is what it is called, this is from memory) and who thinks the Chevy LS7's are the best engine bar none for a Kirkham, and according to him, the Kirkhams agree :eek:, will be putting a 482 FE in his Kirkham. :LOL:

Yes, Bill's car.
Top-notch build with a LOT of customization to accommodate the cammer.

I hope he gets a good price at Monterey.

Rod-the truth; if Malone said your car plus $30K - or even straight up (just wing-it, not talking a hard deal here), would ya??
Think before you answer-Trigos like you have now, fiberglass not tin, (but a 'REAL' CSX:)), would ya??
Forgetting money for a minute-I don't think you would.
And as pal Rodneym proved, you too can have an exotic combination with what you have now...
I know Malone's not saying any of those things.;)

Nice car but I don't care for cammers especially in a Cobra.

I wish him luck with the sale.

Btw: Patrick I think you are wrong. The US dollar is going in the crapper.

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1201789)

Rod-the truth; if Malone said your car plus $30K - or even straight up (just wing-it, not talking a hard deal here), would ya?? Think before you answer-Trigos like you have now, fiberglass not tin, (but a 'REAL' CSX:)), would ya??
Forgetting money for a minute-I don't think you would.
And as pal Rodneym proved, you too can have an exotic combination with what you have now...I know Malone's not saying any of those things.;)

I love a Cammer, but I'd rather have an aftermarket all aluminum Cammer than an original cast iron version. I love black Cobra's, but polished aluminum is the best for me. I love a CSX4000, but I prefer the Kirkham's advancements.

And his car lacks what my cars lacks in terms of the 4 round parts that rubber mounts on and touches the ground and are made of a metal other than aluminum. And whose name will remain unspoken.

I'm happy with what I have, but your hypothetical makes me think.

Bill has an exceptionally nice car. I don't think there is a better sounding Cobra in the world.

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1201770)

I don't want to get into an argument over this Cocknock, I did sing the praises of the t-50 cammer in an SPF not a CSX, and I never said the chevy motor was the best engine bar none for a Kirkham, i said its an awesome motor and a great option for our Australian friends who have a hard time getting an FE in one because of there restrictions, please let everyone express there opinions freely just like you can express your love for the SOHC. And for your info the Kirkhams do agree that the chevy motor is awesome, just yesterday I talked to David Kirkham about there billet FE and Windsor blocks which he prefers the windsor motor in the car for power and weight. This coming from a guy who never even drives his car, grow some balls and use it for what its for, to be driven.....

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1201801)

As our smug colleague would say-"I knew I was right".:cool:
...and I'm not even mentioning the "M" word.:p

Rods vs Malones???
Hmmmm.... Easy choice for me.

Even without the "those that shall remain unspoken"

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1201739)

Not everyone wants a SOHC, I don't.

fordracing, I didn't ask for your negative opinion and yet you gave one on this thread about an outstanding CSX that will be up for auction. One where Ron (CW) actually commented, so you know it must be top notch.

Why does a person make negative remarks at all? And then to call someone childish names using a computer in a public forum? Sticks and stones....

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Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1201795)

Nice car but I don't care for cammers especially in a Cobra.

I wish him luck with the sale.

Btw: Patrick I think you are wrong. The US dollar is going in the crapper.

REAL 1 said the exact same thing, "I don't care for cammers especially ia a Cobra", yet you commit on my post, thats why I brought it up, if your going to nit pick on a chat room of opinions, bring all of your so called negative commits to light.