"Sorting out" Issues...

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Well Mr. Muck it sounds like your associates in TX and at Gear 6 (Superformance Award of Excellence) have a different interpretation. So it's understandable.

Yes, it does appear so. As I said, I am relating my understanding of the regulations. Others may differ. Your mileage may vary.........

Go with what works for you.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Yes, it does appear so. As I said, I am relating my understanding of the regulations. Others may differ. Your mileage may vary.........

Go with what works for you.

Looks like Olthoff also handles biz arms length: Auto Huas Classics in Yorktown, VA

Maybe you're unique, nothing wrong with that.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Looks like Olthoff also handles biz arms length: Auto Huas Classics in Yorktown, VA

Maybe you're unique, nothing wrong with that.

Jay, when I was little my mommy told me that I was "unique" but the other kids didn't believe it.

Don't base your understanding upon what is posted in a CC thread. Dennis at Olthoff Racing does indeed do installs, he has done some for my customers. However Dennis is not now a Superformance dealer, he has given up the dealership portion to do installs and to operate as the DeFacto technical advisor for SPF. Olthoff was one of the early SPF dealers and has a great reputation amoungst their customers that is hard earned but Dennis also agrees that he cannot sell and install.

I can't speak for Auto Haus or any of the other Superformance dealerships although I know the way several handle the sale and they don't install. As I stated some may read the regulations differently as apparently you and your brother do. Again offering a turn key done by two unrelated entities is legal under the letter of the law so Auto Haus selling a turn key with the install done by Olthoff is legal.

[Cashburn]

After all that you finally got to it...

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Don't base your understanding upon what is posted in a CC thread.

That sums up your understanding of my business, as it does my understanding of yours.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

After all that you finally got to it...



That sums up your understanding of my business, as it does my understanding of yours.

Jay,

I think you may have read more into this thread than there is. I am not talking about your operation and my comments are not directed at you or your business.

I have heard good things about your customer service and credit you for that. The drift of this thread has gone from the sorting out problems one purchaser had to legal definitions and interpertations.

I have offered all I need to on this and you or anyone else is welcome to disagree or hold an opposing view. The readers of this thread may come to their own conclusions and I truly hope will do their own due diligence before plunking down money with ANY seller.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

However Dennis is not now a Superformance dealer, he has given up the dealership portion to do installs and to operate as the DeFacto technical advisor for SPF. Olthoff was one of the early SPF dealers and has a great reputation amoungst their customers that is hard earned but Dennis also agrees that he cannot sell and install.

Again offering a turn key done by two unrelated entities is legal under the letter of the law so Auto Haus selling a turn key with the install done by Olthoff is legal.

Maybe this is just a Superformance problem, if it's a problem at all.

Superformance is a manufacturer. Olthoff was a dealer and did installs too. Now he doesn't. I wish I knew the true reason for this, but I'm likely to never know. There are dealers that do installs under their own dealer's name.

Patrick, I know you can setup a legal trail to make an installer an unrelated entity to a dealer or manufacturer, but I still know of no law that says a dealer, unrelated to a manufacturer, cannot do the installs under the dealer's name.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Patrick, I know you can setup a legal trail to make an installer an unrelated entity to a dealer or manufacturer, but I still know of no law that says a dealer, unrelated to a manufacturer, cannot do the installs under the dealer's name.

That's because there isn't one. The fear is that there will be a knock on the door, scary storm-trooper type guys will be standing there, and they say "you're an auto manufacturer and you're now regulated by us, and you've been a very bad boy...." That fear, IMO, is not a realistic one. Just take a few minutes to dot your I's' (like anything else in life).