Carroll Shelby

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by saturnkk

I own a A&C Kit Replica as I cannot afford an original Cobra.

I don't have a chip at all, seems some are very very defensive here. Wikipedia describes VIN fraud that I was refering to (not the 428 issues)
here:

Counterfeit Cobras

In 1993 the Los Angeles Times blew the lid off a Carroll Shelby scheme[10] to "Counterfeit" his own cars. With the price of an original 427 c.i. Cobra skyrocketing, Shelby had, by his own written declaration executed under penalty of perjury, caused the California Department of Motor Vehicles (the government agency responsible for titling vehicles and issuing operator permits) to utter [11] forty-three "Duplicate Titles" for vehicles that did not officially exist in company records. A letter from AC Cars confirmed the fact that the chassis numbers Shelby had obtained titles for were never manufactured, at least by AC Cars. Only fifty-five 427 c.i. Cobras had been originally produced out of a block of serial numbers reserved for 100 vehicles. Shelby had taken advantage of a loophole in the California system that allowed one to obtain a duplicate title for a vehicle only on a written declaration, without the vehicle identification number appearing in the DMV's database [12] or the declarant ever presenting an actual vehicle for inspection.[13] Shelby later admitted[14] that the chassis had been manufactured in 1991 and 92 by McCluskey Ltd, an engineering firm in Torrance, California, and were not authentic AC chassis.

AC Cobra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess I should have known better than to post this thread. Oh well...

Using a legal loophole is not VIN fraud, the fraud was when CS stated that he "found 100 original, unused chassis's in the back of his warehouse" when in fact they were newly produced chassis's.

Wilkpedia is only as accurate as the person who typed the description in as should never be taken 100% at face value.


Bill S.

[saturnkk]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Using a legal loophole is not VIN fraud, the fraud was when CS stated that he "found 100 original, unused chassis's in the back of his warehouse" when in fact they were newly produced chassis's.

Wilkpedia is only as accurate as the person who typed the description in as should never be taken 100% at face value.


Bill S.

This is why I posted this here... To better understand but at this point I don't think we can be very productive. As a couple others have offered some good book recommendations I will follow-up on some of those.

[saturnkk]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Using a legal loophole is not VIN fraud, the fraud was when CS stated that he "found 100 original, unused chassis's in the back of his warehouse" when in fact they were newly produced chassis's.

Wilkpedia is only as accurate as the person who typed the description in as should never be taken 100% at face value.


Bill S.

On a side note, I just took a look at your GT500 pic. Wow! Beautiful!! Is that the original color?!?

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by saturnkk

On a side note, I just took a look at your GT500 pic. Wow! Beautiful!! Is that the original color?!?

Yup, original Grabber Orange.

As for books, the SAAC Registry is the only one you need right now, the rest make for good reading material (mostly outdated), but that is about it.

How about posting some pictures of your A&C Cobra.


Bill S.

[saturnkk]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Yup, original Grabber Orange.

As for books, the SAAC Registry is the only one you need right now, the rest make for good reading material (mostly outdated), but that is about it.

How about posting some pictures of your A&C Cobra.


Bill S.

I mailed my check today for the SAAC book but I think I want to pick-up the biography too.

It is winter here and I haven't gotten any good pics yet. Driveway has ice/snow. Will post some "good" ones in the spring. I have one I took with my cell phone when I first brought it home. I'll post that later.

Color is awesome on your GT500! I imagine it is a fairly rare color?