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Old 04-24-2013, 10:34 PM
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Try P21S Polish Enhancer and finish with P21S Carnauba Wax via hand application. Unbelievable products that are nice to painted finishes. Can purchase at carcare online.com

You can also call Larry the owner there for advice as he sells all the major products but has his favorites. He is a wealth of information.

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Old 04-25-2013, 09:54 AM
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I use Griot's products and their orbital polisher. I have used many brands over the years and have owned many black cars. Each spring I use polish then Groit's Show Car applied twice per their instruction video. After letting the first coat and dry. I've had many compliments on the depth of the finish and many questions on how it’s done without any swirl marks. I use the orbital to remove the dried wax and then lightly spray with their detailer and a micro fiber. I will admit I prefer Mothers or Wizards Detailer over Groit’s Quick Detailer.

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Old 04-25-2013, 09:58 PM
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I have been happy with the Zaino products. And when it comes to working on the Cobra I always think...Yeah! I'm working on a Cobra! Lifes is good.

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:17 AM
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I have been using Zaino products for many years and still do with amazing results. My SPF is black and I get the the best results from Pinnacle carnuba products. I recommend the Poter Cable 7424 orbital polisher as mentioned earlier.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:15 AM
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Over the years have used Zaino, Zymol, 113 and all of them on my black Harley, '38 Chevy and Cobra. Mothers new Reflections blows them away. Never seen a deeper shine. I wax mine a lot so Carnuba based are not an option as I don't want to have to strip wax every so often, as I have in the past, it will give you buildup which is visable over time. NXT is what I use on my outside car as it gives a good shine which will last for 6 months easy. I wouldn't use a buffer on a regular basis as I am in no big hurry and have seen real messes in the hands of a non-professional (or without significant experience) plus hand waxing gives me a legitimate (appearing) excuse to stay out in the garage for long periods of time, drinking beer and stareing at my toys.
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Agree with the PC 7424 with the 6.5 in pad kit. I use Griots orange pads for application and pre-polish, grey for polish application. I find 3m Perfect-it to work about the best. Wax, I try to find the highest % Carnuba content without getting ridiculous, P21s is a good general purpose example. Certainly you can spend thousands for Brazillion carnuba......I would like to see a side by side comp before making a judgment.
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Here is the magic shine recipe for the non high speed polishing guys

6" Variable Speed Dual Action Polisher
Also buy the matching compounding , polishing and finishing pads $4.00 each

3M Perfect It Compound and Polish Kit Buffing Pad Foam 39060 39061 39062 | eBay

That is th 3m 3 part perfect it kit , there is nothing better " 3m spends more in r&d for a product than most companies make in. Lifetime.

And I have tried every wax made on my Porsche cars yes I have actually spent $600.00
On a bar of wax . Without a doubt the best sub $200 wax is Lusso oro you just cannot beat it for the money.

Lusso Oro

In the beginning I posted the hf polisher " I'm serious here for the guy that's does not want to put out the $400 for a Bosch or porter this thing is amazing. Bering a little noisy but who cares.

The 3m and lusso will easily last you 3 seasons. Try this recipe and you will agree,
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Novice question here:

Do you polish around your stripes or over them?
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Over them " the majority of our cars are base clear
Clear coat over color so it's really just one coat your working on.

Feeling the raise of height at the stripe seam is normal.
Painting seamless stripes is big money so you don't see it that often.
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I have used a Snap-on/Blue Point pneumatic orbital with 3M orange pads. It works fine but it's honestly no easier than doing the work by hand, IMO.

A few years ago I started using Zaino products and I have to say they: (1) are super easy to apply and take off (they claim you can even do it in the sun), (2) look great, and (3) last a really long time, especially for cars that aren't daily driven. There are a lot of waxes/protectants that look great, but the ease of use for the Zaino stuff is the top benefit for me.
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