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03-19-2013, 06:09 AM
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Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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I agree jwilgie, most of the time you can get a lot of constructive help on this site, but it appears the "sharks are out for blood" on this one.
One thing I can tell you for sure..the car "is real",..... a real Shelby?...not so much!
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03-19-2013, 06:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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jwilgie: The sarcastic responses are due to the fact that we see so many of these replicas being presented as originals that its unbelieveable that prospective buyers don't investigate sellers claims before buying. Whats on the data plate of these things should always be looked at with many grains of salt. If You were mislead about its identity and paid too much for it, I would think you have grounds for a fraud lawsuit.
Don' give up on this site, it's your best source for cobra information.
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03-19-2013, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MOTORHEAD
jwilgie: The sarcastic responses are due to the fact that we see so many of these replicas being presented as originals that its unbelieveable that prospective buyers don't investigate sellers claims before buying. Whats on the data plate of these things should always be looked at with many grains of salt. If You were mislead about its identity and paid too much for it, I would think you have grounds for a fraud lawsuit.
Don' give up on this site, it's your best source for cobra information.
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Actually many of the sarcastic remarks are more of members teasing each other.
It seems that we have 2 votes for an early Unique Motorcars replica. Does anyone have some recent sales data for a similar car? If we had some price information, that might help jwilgie have a clue of whether he got a bargain or not. It could also be helpful to let him know whether his offer for $19k over his purchase price would have been a good deal.
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03-19-2013, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Actually many of the sarcastic remarks are more of members teasing each other.
It seems that we have 2 votes for an early Unique Motorcars replica. Does anyone have some recent sales data for a similar car? If we had some price information, that might help jwilgie have a clue of whether he got a bargain or not. It could also be helpful to let him know whether his offer for $19k over his purchase price would have been a good deal.
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The 4 I have seen actually sell recently (1-3 months) were anywhere from $25,600-$42,000
Clearly the 42K car had a 427 sideoiler (not a 390 bored .060 over which to me is excessive), and true knock off wheels, a fitted convertible top, and heater/wiper/windwings.
Bill S.
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03-19-2013, 08:02 AM
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I'm not overly concerned if I got a good deal or a bad deal on this car...the car looks goods........sounds good.....and my wife likes it. Life is good. I had the money...a friend knew the owner wanted to sell the car and we made a stupid offer I thought. Bought the car a few months ago but since it was in heated storage there was no rush to take delivery. I never thought it was anything other than a kit. Now that I have the car I was curious as to what I bought. It's a cheap way to do our local Cruise in. My last "hobby" was doing poker runs through out the country with a 38' offshore powerboat....so in that perspective this is like free. Probably turning down a big profit is foolish............then again I'm sure I'll do okay when the time comes...if not the "KIT" Cobra will look just fine sitting next to a 63 Porsche in the showroom. Thanks Again
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03-19-2013, 09:31 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I'm not overly concerned if I got a good deal or a bad deal on this car...the car looks goods........sounds good.....
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99.9% of the guys on here have fake cars so, in that regard, they're all the same. Some would laugh at what I paid for my car, others might say I got a deal. But, like you, it makes no difference to me. If you like what you bought, and feel you paid a fair price, then that's all you can ever ask. Life is too short to be irritated by the likes of Chas, RodKnock, et. al. They will only bring you down and stomp on your obviously high spirits. I think you did the right thing buying the car, I think it looks great, and I think there's a 50/50 chance it might be CSX car as well. I think it even looks better than Evan's, and I know he dropped six figures on his... so, with that in mind, I say "job well done."
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03-19-2013, 09:40 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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Way to go making a new guy feel welcome. Not all of you, just a couple of regulars.
He asked a simple question. "What the heck did I buy?"
He's not looking for advice on whether he paid too much, or trying to misrepresent the manufacturer of his car (he's only going by what the plate says and what he was told). He is just looking to get more info about the car he now owns. So, if you have any thoughts that could help him out, share them.
So how about we uncircle the wagons, put the dogs back in the pen and offer up some of that vast knowlege that we know is available on this forum?
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03-19-2013, 06:49 AM
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Did any of you guys notice that on the first post the OP stated that it is a replica and is asking what manufacture it is? Right there the OP is stating that it is not a Shelby Cobra.
What this thread is to me is someone that got a good deal on a replica but is asking for help in identifying the manufacture. That is it.
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03-19-2013, 09:36 AM
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Location: Near Chichester, Sussex by the sea......,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Crendon 427 S/C 428 FE+toploader
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Just a quip from foreigner:
ive noticed a lot of US replicas carrying titles like '1964 Shelby Cobra', some admit their fake heritage, other do not- YouTube is full of them. Potentially very confusing for the uninitiated, but the attitude here would be 'caveat emptor' - buyer beware. I'm not sure why this guy is getting a hard time, other than the $19k boast, which, I suppose, might induce some sarcasm on this side of the pond too.
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03-19-2013, 10:54 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinW
I'm not sure why this guy is getting a hard time, other than the $19k boast, which, I suppose, might induce some sarcasm on this side of the pond too.
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My only interest here was the possibility of magnesium wheels. So don't shoot me. But, I agree with KevinW, the boast of a $19K profit yet unrealized could have been the culprit for some of the sarcasm.
Now, if someone were willing to give me $19K over my cost basis plus a return on my equity, then I would be out of here and over to the much classier Ferrari Chat forum.
Oh and it's time to drop in a real FE in there. 
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03-19-2013, 12:01 PM
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BTW, I can say unequivocally that the OP's car is NOT a Kirkham.
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03-19-2013, 06:27 PM
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That's tellin' em, Ron!
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03-22-2013, 01:27 PM
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And just another reason why I find this forum so much fun to read! However, nice Cobra.......... And welcome to the madness.
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03-24-2013, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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1ntCobra: You mean my ERA was really a CSX and my CSX is really an ERA????
Oh, God what a mess. I now have to think of another user name. How about "UNREAL". : (
Bill: Any time you want to stop by just let me know. Always welcome.
I will even take you for a ride weather permitting.
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03-24-2013, 07:56 PM
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03-24-2013, 10:04 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 289 FIA HiPo 289 with Shelby dual quad intake
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The last two pictures don't look like a Unique to me. Jwilgie, one of your earlier shots had part of a blue assigned serial number showing. Does that number match the one on the Shelby tag? It should also show the state that issued it.
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03-25-2013, 12:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Sittin here minin my own damn biness...
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03-25-2013, 07:57 AM
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Sittin here minin my own damn biness...
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Ahem, that's bidness.
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05-11-2013, 12:04 PM
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Just received the initial build sheet/engine specs/etc. NAF 427SC, Replica, Stage 111, Assembled & painted. Initially sold Dec 1990. 428 engine. Toploader trans. Ford SVO 8.8 spline posi rear with 11" SVO brakes/hubs. Have the engine specs-525hp....they say. Factory built by Auto Sport Performance Products (formerly NAF) GT-1. For what ever it's worth this is the exact car that is in December 1991 volume 6..no.6. Thanks Again for everyones effort.
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03-25-2013, 11:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Could it be a NAF????
Can't really make out the frame rails.
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