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06-04-2013, 12:38 AM
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Cobra Myths and Legends
Hi,
The Cobra has become a part of automotive folklore over the years and countless tales have developed, some true, others less so.
Many I already know, but I'm sure there are others I haven't yet heard. The tale of how Shelby used to stick a $100 bill to the inside of the windscreen and if the passenger could reach it under acceleration, they could keep it, is a good example. The story goes that no one ever did get the $100.
I'd like to hear about all the tales, myths and legends, true or otherwise that have become a part of the Cobra folklore. Even if you think everyone will already know it, please post it up here.
In the words of Baldric from Blackadder, I have a cunning plan.
Thanks,
Paul
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06-04-2013, 02:35 AM
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"They built the first 100 cars from recycled beer cans" ...Carroll Shelby
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06-04-2013, 04:14 AM
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"The bodies were pounded out by some winos living under a bridge...."
"CSX" stands for Carroll Shelby eXperimental"
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06-04-2013, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
"CSX" stands for Carroll Shelby eXperimental"
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This may be the biggest myth of all :-))
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06-04-2013, 09:26 AM
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CSX is for Carroll Shelby exports
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06-04-2013, 10:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike harter
CSX is for Carroll Shelby exports
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Apparently C standing for Carroll or Cobra is another myth and coincidence.
The first series of AC Aces had serial numbers beginning with "A". The next series of AC Aces, powered by Bristol engines, used serial numbers beginning with "B". So when the third series of AC Ace derivative cars was built for Shelby, the first letter of the serial numbers changed to "C".
Although following that logic, you would think that when they went to the coil spring chassis, that AC would have switched to using "D" for the first letter and thus you would have DSX3001 instead of CSX3001. Interestingly CSX3001 and CSX3002 were initially designated as CSX2701 and CSX2702.
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06-04-2013, 02:36 PM
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Myth? Mystery? or BS?
Carrol Shelby stashed a bunch of chassis, bodies and parts in a warehouse before he went on his "walkabout" in South Africa. Some say there are still some stashed.... 
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12-14-2013, 07:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
"The bodies were pounded out by some winos living under a bridge...."
"CSX" stands for Carroll Shelby eXperimental"
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CSX stands for Carroll Shelby Experimental. Footnote: "Carroll Shelby's The Cobra Story" Published 1965 By Carroll Shelby ( the manufacturer of legal record of the Cobra) and John Bentley. PAGE 193. Myth or Fact???
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12-14-2013, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor maine
CSX stands for Carroll Shelby Experimental. Footnote: "Carroll Shelby's The Cobra Story" Published 1965 By Carroll Shelby ( the manufacturer of legal record of the Cobra) and John Bentley. PAGE 193. Myth or Fact???
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Myth. 
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12-14-2013, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor maine
CSX stands for Carroll Shelby Experimental. ?
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It has been my understanding that the X designated cars manufactured for e Xport.
Cheers!
Dugly 
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12-14-2013, 04:33 PM
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Gee Thor, that Dale Carnegie course really paid off for you.
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12-15-2013, 02:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YerDugliness
It has been my understanding that the X designated cars manufactured for e Xport.
Cheers!
Dugly 
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That's the generally accepted line. The C was a continuation of the A and B series of chassis. Although that seems to have been abandoned with the Mk.III, which should probably have been a D prefix chassis number.
Paul
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06-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Snake
"They built the first 100 cars from recycled beer cans" ...Carroll Shelby
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Which proves how clever AC was back then as beer cans were steel until the 70's!!! 
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06-04-2013, 04:33 PM
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Cobra: "Come on, put your foot to the floor, I won't try to kill you, honest" 
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06-04-2013, 04:13 AM
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The person who coached me during my build has been driving big block Cobras since the 60's has a $100.00 bill on his pass visor and nobody has touched it while going through the gears.
One thing that always impressed me was his being so adamant about passing.
Passing anything in a big block Cobra,
"Always pull out then hit the throttle otherwise you could run into the back of whatever your passing"
Once our car was dailed in I experimented a little he was right till it became routine.The $100.00 bill thing is also true,provided the pass follows the rules hands in their laps and try to reach while rowing the gears only.
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06-04-2013, 06:34 AM
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My uncle had an original... 
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06-04-2013, 09:15 AM
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And this happens to be the bridge that those winos were working under:

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06-04-2013, 09:22 AM
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I have never been in any car that I couldn't reach up and touch the dash.
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06-04-2013, 09:30 AM
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Not directly related to the cobra, but in the family.
Where the GT350 got it's name (someone can probably improve a bit on the literal accuracy, but here's the gist):
When they were arguing over what to call the first Shelby Mustang, Carroll finally pointed out the window and asked, "How far to the shop from this office?" Someone replied about 350 ft. He said, "Great, we'll call it the GT350."
His logic: If it's a good car, the name won't matter and if it's a bad car, the name won't save it.
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06-04-2013, 03:01 PM
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