Replica owners: How do you respond to "what year is it?"

[REAL 1]

JBCobra: You'll be disappointed to know the year is 2001. What does your say as to year?

Brett: Correct again.

CCRsAC: Such anger! For a newbie you need to take a deep breath and try and learn. Based on your post count and your statements your knowledge pool doesn't appear to be that deep.

As you apparently have no clue, ol' Shel's role back in the 60's wasn't "wrenching" either. He was the "face" of both the old SAI and the current SAI if corporations have a face, which they technically don't but I suppose you knew that. Back in the 60's they were AC bodies and chasis branded Shelby Cobras, but you knew that and today they are Kirkham body and chasis branded Cobras. Not hard stuff.

I don't eat Hoagies that often. I do like wraps though. Watching my carbs. The rest of your post is just silly and meant as a personal attack or put down which really brings down the entire site in the eyes of the public. You need to learn to try and stick wtih the facts and substance as opposed to personal attacks as in the end your just embarrassing yourself.

As to the car show thing your right at a Mom and Pop show they don't separate out cars into classes or categories like they would at SAAC.

Your also right the "civilian" (not a phrase I coined but I suppose you know that too) likely wouldn't be able to tell the difference at first glance between your "rattle trap" FFR (which assuming is really not a rattle trap but probably quite nice in appearance) and my Shelby. Thats why we have the Reigistry. Thats also why it's fair to explain the difference if asked.

Just so happens I have a friend and neighbor that has a FFR. Its beautifully finished. Have no issue parking next to him and hang out with him often shooting the breeze on cars and Cobras.

Also recently, true story, was driving my Shelby and a FFR was in front of me. I put on my turn signal into a Panera and he pulled into the right lane let me pass and followed me into the lot. He was floored wtih my car and the fact it was a Shelby. We talked Cobras, Shelbys etc.. for a good hour. Exchanged numbers and a week later I called to invite him to a Cobra reunion event in PA. His car was actually very rough in appearance and not nearly as "finished" as my neighbors. Oh, and it was my neighbor who invited me and told me about the Cobra reunion event.

See it's not the car I have an issue with. I only would have an issue with insecure, angry FFR owners.

Bylkins: The confusion stems from the difference between the Dictionary definintion of "replica" and how that word is now so widely used and understood by the average Joe when it comes to all of these cars. SAAC deals with this issue and thats why in the world of these cars they have set forth definintions based on the now common usage and understanding.

You are also wrong in that Kirkhams are not included in the definition of "replica" / "kit" in the World registry. They are considered "Cobras" manuafactured by Kirkham. You are free to disagree and have your own opinion but the only real authority and authoritative text has set the standard and definitions. I like and always agreed with SAACs position so I go'in with it!

[Al G]

I tell them it's a 1965 built in 2011. The title says 1965 in the year block and replica in the comments block. That's how Virginia does it.

[blykins]

Aww, forget SAAC.

A Kirkham is not a '60's CSX. Therefore it's a copy. Replica. Whatever you wanna call it.

[mdross1]

When I first started thinking about a kit knowing that an original was out of the question had the misconception that they were a fairly easy bolt together car.Oh how wrong I was.That being said when asked about our car always hesitate to say kit and usually add that these are by no means bolt together anyone can do it.Most do not have a clue other partly understand.The rest they can think what they want since my name is on the title and the steering wheel is in my hand.Acting like a teenager behind the wheel is hard to control I make no excuses.
Lucky for me when I first started 20 yrs ago there were plenty of people knowledgeable about these cars to motivate and help me along as was this people in this forum.We own a fiberglass bodied BB Cobra call it what you will. 99% of the time it does not matter about it's origin unless someone is truly interested then I will elaborate,and very proud to do that.

[blykins]

A lot of people understand that they are not originals. They're still cool.

I do have a problem with the whole "replica" deal. In my mind there's a difference between a "kit car" and a replica. A "replica" is designed to "replicate." This is where I struggle with the ones that say, "Well Shelby thought about using a Chevrolet engine, so I'm going to use a SBC." Well, he *may* have thought about putting curb feelers on the first one too, but he didn't. He also *may* have turned to a buddy in jest and said, "Let's put a straight 8 Olds engine in it. " But he didn't.

The whole "Is it real" argument is really easy to sum up if you just take a step back and look at the forest.

[JBCOBRA]

Mine says 2005 SPF Cobra.

[BAsque1]

Weeelllll I know after this post I will be chewed, masticated, and spitted out as a bad bite, but I normally direct the curious ones to look at the vin # plate inside the engine bay which clearly states "'1965 Ford 2 Door Convertible"
I know is a replica, i know it is not an original AC Cobra so don"t get your knickers on a twist. I am having toooooo much fun with it and I could care less what anyone thinks.If I had a $ for all the compliments, videos and pictures this car draws I can pay for the gas for a year.
Life is too short to be upset for trivialities

[itstock]

Originally Posted by BAsque1

Weeelllll I know after this post I will be chewed, masticated, and spitted out as a bad bite, but I normally direct the curious ones to look at the vin # plate inside the engine bay which clearly states "'1965 Ford 2 Door Convertible"
I know is a replica, i know it is not an original AC Cobra so don"t get your knickers on a twist. I am having toooooo much fun with it and I could care less what anyone thinks.If I had a $ for all the compliments, videos and pictures this car draws I can pay for the gas for a year.
Life is too short to be upset for trivialities

Well you obviously care what people think if you are purposely misleading them, don't you think?

[BAsque1]

Originally Posted by itstock

Well you obviously care what people think if you are purposely misleading them, don't you think?

Istock:
I am not, I do tell them is manufactured by WCC I don't hide that, I have no control of the fact that this is how it was built and titled in California and three years ago NYS accepted that titling.

Besides, anyone with enough common sense will not drive or show in a local hometown car cruise an $750,000.00 +++ car if they own an original. Most definitely it would be in my living room and there will be very tight security measures around.

Lastly, if someone knows a little bit about original Cobras, my car does not look anything like the original ones, it is 6" longer and 4" wider with totally different interiors.



Cheers man!!
Lou

[jhv48]

That's telling them!

[mrmustang]

It's rare for me to reuse a picture in such a short amount of time, however, I believe this to be appropriate to this thread as well as the one that was closed a few days ago:



If not, Ron/Ron can remove it as need be

[henrik]

I find it easy:

"It is a modern replica of the iconic 1965 427 Shelby AC Cobra - this particular car is a 2008 backdraft with a Roush 427 engine and the T-56 trans. and I'm pleased it has the BMW M3 Suspensions and brakes to try to handle all the power - 540rwhp / 750 Nm to a 980 kg light car"

This way I have answered most of the questions that always followes...

If the ask how fast it is... : "If you ask for 0-100 km/h... It can kill you in less than 4 seconds"

And if they dare ask to "see the engine" : "no, they are not Webers... this is a EFI system where the intake is made to look like 4 polished Webers - better performance and keep the look "

[REAL 1]

Nothing wrong with this thread as I can see. The guys are discussing the posted topic. You may not like it so you are free to post your pics in other threads.

Sheesh. Last I recall you are not a moderator. Neither am I but just because someone doesn't like a topic should give them the right to jump it and try to have it shut down.

The moderators here are very adept at "closing" threads when they deem it appropriate.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Nothing wrong with this thread as I can see. The guys are discussing the posted topic. You may not like it so you are free to post your pics in other threads.

You get off on the conflict, don't you Evan

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Sheesh. Last I recall you are not a moderator.

I find my moderation duties on this one's sister site (clubhotrod.com) to be a handful, so thankfully I am not on "this" forum

[REAL 1]

Nope. Just calling it the way I see it as always.

Also, didn't know your on more than one site too! Wow, I knew I wasn't the only one. See I'm right again!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Also, didn't know your on more than one site too! Wow, I knew I wasn't the only one. See I'm right again!

Yep, he's the "bane of my existence", as well others, on another site where he snags all the best deals.

He's the epitome of statement: "the early bird catches the worm."

And Bill was giving me a hard time about "pissing matches."

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

And Bill was giving me a hard time about "pissing matches."

Evan and I enjoy the banter back and forth 99% of the time


You and Patrick are a whole other story

[BAsque1]

Poor horsey, it definitely got beaten
Guys, the good thing about this is that after all is said and re-said and re-said, we are the luckiest sun*****es in the world, having to deal with all this attention and character assassination, we still drive the meanest in your face nasty car in the world (real, replica, kit car, or any other name to it)
Amen to this discussion
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend and enjoy your beasts!!!!
Sincerely
Lou

[289fia_cobra]

I was going to answer to this post when I realized it had taken a turn in another dimension.

[1ntCobra]

Hmm, as a "civilian", suppose I happened upon a "Factory Five '33 Hot Rod" at a car show and I asked the owner what year it was, to which he replied, "Its a 2013 replica of a 1933 something or other as would theoretically be modified by a 1950's hot rodder". To which I would become confused and just rather have heard that it was a 1933 something or other.