Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[Paul F]

Thanks for the response Evan. Indeed in the sense you stated, the registry is a great thing and I think it is a great project/product that people have put it together for those that are fortunate enough to own one of these cars.

I'd ignore the naysayers and detractors. They can't take away what the continuation Cobras are. Continuation Cobras are what they are in the eye of the beholder. Neither a judge nor a registry is going to change that. But the registry certainly gives those Cobras an excellent reference for those that own or will own one of them.

Now, back to the discussion. I've got a bottle of Basil Hayden and some Bookers. I'm inviting everyone to my place to discuss this. How does next month look?

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by Paul F

Thanks for the response Evan. Indeed in the sense you stated, the registry is a great thing and I think it is a great project/product that people have put it together for those that are fortunate enough to own one of these cars.

I'd ignore the naysayers and detractors. They can't take away what the continuation Cobras are. Continuation Cobras are what they are in the eye of the beholder. Neither a judge nor a registry is going to change that. But the registry certainly gives those Cobras an excellent reference for those that own or will own one of them.

Now, back to the discussion. I've got a bottle of Basil Hayden and some Bookers. I'm inviting everyone to my place to discuss this. How does next month look?

I'm in, I have to get out of the heat for a while, I'm starting to imagine someone said a CSX roller was $160,000...

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

I'm in, I have to get out of the heat for a while, I'm starting to imagine someone said a CSX roller was $160,000...

Was I wrong about the number? I was just copyig what another posted.

I figure if he keeps posting three times a day about a registry he will feel better.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Paul F

Thanks for the response Evan. Indeed in the sense you stated, the registry is a great thing and I think it is a great project/product that people have put it together for those that are fortunate enough to own one of these cars.

I'd ignore the naysayers and detractors. They can't take away what the continuation Cobras are. Continuation Cobras are what they are in the eye of the beholder. Neither a judge nor a registry is going to change that. But the registry certainly gives those Cobras an excellent reference for those that own or will own one of them.

Now, back to the discussion. I've got a bottle of Basil Hayden and some Bookers. I'm inviting everyone to my place to discuss this. How does next month look?

Well, I could certainly use a vacation to California just have to find the time. I would love it and would do it if time allowed. Believe me. Thanks for the invite just the same.

I will provide a reciprocal invitation to all for a round table discussion here in beautiful Somerset County NJ. I will supply the JD Honey/Southern Comfort (my favorite) and the beer. Hell, we can even hang out and BBQ and swim in the pool. We can even tour the local sites like, well...Bada Bing on Rt. 17 to continue our discussions over drinks. I'll bring a Registry.

Rodknock: If roller prices go to $160K as I heard that alloy CSX that sold for $138K is a great buy in MHO.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Well, I could certainly use a vacation to California just have to find the time. I would love it and would do it if time allowed. Believe me. Thanks for the invite just the same.

I will provide a reciprocal invitation to all for a round table discussion here in beautiful Somerset County NJ. I will supply the JD Honey/Southern Comfort (my favorite) and the beer. Hell, we can even hang out and BBQ and swim in the pool. We can even tour the local sites like, well...Bada Bing on Rt. 17 to continue our discussions over drinks. I'll bring a Registry.

Rodknock: If roller prices go to $160K as I heard that alloy CSX that sold for $138K is a great buy in MHO.

I'll do the same, we can meet at my place in Vegas, we will go to the Shelby factory to see all the cars, then off to the strip, I have aged Tequila, should be fun...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Rodknock: If roller prices go to $160K as I heard that alloy CSX that sold for $138K is a great buy in MHO.

And it might be a great buy, but I think it's "market" as of now. And has been for some time. Moving the CSX alloy roller prices from $140,000 to $160,000 may or may not have an effect.

But, if there is an effect, in relative terms, the difference won't be statistically different from any of the Cobra manufacturers, who have raised roller prices and/or will raise their prices.

As I mentioned, rollers offered by Backdraft, Superformance, ERA and Kirkham will rise too. And have.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Here's CSX4390 with aluminum body and a FI Kroyer engine sold by the AE Collection here in CA. The AE Collection sells really high end low mileage cars that they don't keep in their collection. Last asking price was $150,000. Sold for $138,000:

Shelby : CSX Cobra CSX in Shelby | eBay Motors

For posterity here's the verbiage w/o the history lesson:

"Numbered CSX4390 and complete with a Shelby American VIN plate, this outstanding 1965 Shelby Cobra was sold new for $250,000. Finishline Motorsports of Las Vegas built it, with power delivered by an awesome, fuel-injected 427 alloy V-8 built by Kroyer Racing Engines, also of Las Vegas, the famed off-road racing experts. Highly desirable features include a lightweight aluminum body, unlike the cast majority of fiberglass-bodied Cobras, d bumpers, front and rear jacking points, side pipes, wind wings, and a driver’s roll bar. Pro-built, it is sure to deliver an incredible driving experience with truly brutal performance, channeling the legendary original with the benefit of today’s refinements and new technologies."

Normally, I wouldn't be impressed with a engine builder's name such as Kroyer, but I believe ERA Chas mentioned he knows the name and thought they were a top-notch engine builder.

So, new alloy CSX rollers are allegedly $160,000 or you can pick up a very nice nearly new (1,100 +/- miles) alloy CSX with a FI engine for $138,000. Hmmm.

I think most guys would be proud to have that engine in thier automobile. They make great engines.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

And it might be a great buy, but I think it's "market" as of now. And has been for some time. Moving the CSX alloy roller prices from $140,000 to $160,000 may or may not have an effect.

But, if there is an effect, in relative terms, the difference won't be statistically different from any of the Cobra manufacturers, who have raised roller prices and/or will raise their prices.

As I mentioned, rollers offered by Backdraft, Superformance, ERA and Kirkham will rise too. And have.

I actually did bid on this vehicle. Never interested to own one but for maybe one reason. I emailed the company and later spoke to a rep and answered all my questions. Took a look at it while in Malibu and it was sweet. I think I would have bid higher if the colors were reversed, never know what another bidder would have pushed it to. I am limited in the knowledge department on market value on these and asked someone that knows better than I. Maybe market value but with that engine and compared to the few I've seen maybe it was a bargain. My gut sort of sides with bargain. Not that money was a concern I made several purchases recently at that Auctions America in Cali that sold off many of the Petersons Museum vehicles. Haven't made a purchase in a long time.


Can I ask what a similarly equipped Kirkham new would go for compared to this one NEW?

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

I think most guys would be proud to have that engine in thier automobile. They make great engines.





I actually did bid on this vehicle. Never interested to own one but for maybe one reason. I emailed the company and later spoke to a rep and answered all my questions. Took a look at it while in Malibu and it was sweet. I think I would have bid higher if the colors were reversed, never know what another bidder would have pushed it to. I am limited in the knowledge department on market value on these and asked someone that knows better than I. Maybe market value but with that engine and compared to the few I've seen maybe it was a bargain. My gut sort of sides with bargain. Not that money was a concern I made several purchases recently at that Auctions America in Cali that sold off many of the Petersons Museum vehicles. Haven't made a purchase in a long time.


Can I ask what a similarly equipped Kirkham new would go for compared to this one NEW?

To build a Kirkham like this with that engine would be about $1400,000- $150,000, that engine will bring a premium... Kirkham roller finished=$100,000-engine,etc=$50,000...pricing off Kirkham website, could be done cheaper if finished yourself to save on labor, etc...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

Can I ask what a similarly equipped Kirkham new would go for compared to this one NEW?

fordracing is probably fairly close. In my VERY ROUND numbers:

NEW Kirkham Roller: $70,000
Paint: $15,000
Aluminum 482 Engine w/FI: $30,000 (Typical all aluminum carbed engine is about $20,000)
Tranny, Clutch, Bellhousing & Misc.: $5,000
Other Incidentals
(Coolant Recovery, Oil Vapor Tank, Other Options, etc.): $5,000
Typical Labor: $10,000
Sorting the EFI (if ever really sorted): $5,000

$140,000.

There are plenty of ways to cut some costs as well as spend even more money.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

fordracing is probably fairly close. In my VERY ROUND numbers:

NEW Kirkham Roller: $70,000
Paint: $15,000
Aluminum 482 Engine w/FI: $30,000 (Typical all aluminum carbed engine is about $20,000)
Tranny, Clutch, Bellhousing & Misc.: $5,000
Other Incidentals
(Coolant Recovery, Oil Vapor Tank, Other Options, etc.): $5,000
Typical Labor: $10,000
Sorting the EFI (if ever really sorted): $5,000

$140,000.

There are plenty of ways to cut some costs as well as spend even more money.

So maybe that $250,000 original build price may have been a bit high if it was a lower cost earlier model.