427 or coyote? - Page 2

bobcowan · #2 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 08:56 AM

Mileage, sound, intended use, cost, resale value. Who cares???

This isn't really about any of those things. This is a Cobra, your dream car. Those are not the questions you should be asking.

Which one takes your breath away? Which one makes you smile just looking at it? Which one calls to you from the garage, "Drive me"? Which one gives you a woody?

Get that one.

toddl · #3 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 09:26 AM

Amen to that!

Todd

jhv48 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 10:04 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I have a 2011 Shelby GT 500 Mustang with plenty of power (550 hp) and a nice fuel injected engine with 100,000 mile reliability. The wife drives it to work every day.

I bought the cobra to assault my senses! I want it to be raw, powerful, smelly, cantankerous, uncomfortable, a gas guzzler. I don't want the best fuel economy. I don't want yards and yards of electrical connections in my engine compartment. I don't want a muffled exhaust note so I can talk to my passenger. I want low end torque. I want simplicity, not complexity. Every time I start it up, I want to wonder what is going to go wrong this time. I want my balls to feel the firing pulses when it does start. I want to have to feather the throttle to keep it running because I have no choke to smooth things out. I want to be completely involved in the actual driving experience not just going through the motions. I want to feel the tires start to slip as I corner just a hair above their limit. I want to catch the rear end before it decides to become the front end. I want to be deafened by the sidepipes when I do put my foot into the carburetor. I want to arrive at my destination alive and all tingly with excitement. I want to be able to tinker with the engine, adjust the carburetor, set the timing, change the sparkplugs just for the heck of it.

Basically, my cobra takes me back to a time when cars were simple and raw, and it took all your skill and attention to drive and control them. There were no electrical nannies to make sure you didn't overstep your ability. If you got too enthusiastic, you paid for it either with a learning experience or a trip to the body shop.

That's why I will never put a Coyote engine under the hood of my cobra!

If I want to be bored, I drive the wife's car!

But, that's just me!

Cashburn · #5 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jhv48

Maybe it's just me, but I have a 2011 Shelby GT 500 Mustang with plenty of power (550 hp) and a nice fuel injected engine with 100,000 mile reliability. The wife drives it to work every day.

I bought the cobra to assault my senses! I want it to be raw, powerful, smelly, cantankerous, uncomfortable, a gas guzzler. I don't want the best fuel economy. I don't want yards and yards of electrical connections in my engine compartment. I don't want a muffled exhaust note so I can talk to my passenger. I want low end torque. I want simplicity, not complexity. Every time I start it up, I want to wonder what is going to go wrong this time. I want my balls to feel the firing pulses when it does start. I want to have to feather the throttle to keep it running because I have no choke to smooth things out. I want to be completely involved in the actual driving experience not just going through the motions. I want to feel the tires start to slip as I corner just a hair above their limit. I want to catch the rear end before it decides to become the front end. I want to be deafened by the sidepipes when I do put my foot into the carburetor. I want to arrive at my destination alive and all tingly with excitement. I want to be able to tinker with the engine, adjust the carburetor, set the timing, change the sparkplugs just for the heck of it.

Basically, my cobra takes me back to a time when cars were simple and raw, and it took all your skill and attention to drive and control them. There were no electrical nannies to make sure you didn't overstep your ability. If you got too enthusiastic, you paid for it either with a learning experience or a trip to the body shop.

That's why I will never put a Coyote engine under the hood of my cobra!

If I want to be bored, I drive the wife's car!

But, that's just me!

I can appreciate everything you posted, but why not an FE then?

AL427SBF · #6 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhv48

Maybe it's just me, but I have a 2011 Shelby GT 500 Mustang with plenty of power (550 hp) and a nice fuel injected engine with 100,000 mile reliability. The wife drives it to work every day.

I bought the cobra to assault my senses! I want it to be raw, powerful, smelly, cantankerous, uncomfortable, a gas guzzler. I don't want the best fuel economy. I don't want yards and yards of electrical connections in my engine compartment. I don't want a muffled exhaust note so I can talk to my passenger. I want low end torque. I want simplicity, not complexity. Every time I start it up, I want to wonder what is going to go wrong this time. I want my balls to feel the firing pulses when it does start. I want to have to feather the throttle to keep it running because I have no choke to smooth things out. I want to be completely involved in the actual driving experience not just going through the motions. I want to feel the tires start to slip as I corner just a hair above their limit. I want to catch the rear end before it decides to become the front end. I want to be deafened by the sidepipes when I do put my foot into the carburetor. I want to arrive at my destination alive and all tingly with excitement. I want to be able to tinker with the engine, adjust the carburetor, set the timing, change the sparkplugs just for the heck of it.

Basically, my cobra takes me back to a time when cars were simple and raw, and it took all your skill and attention to drive and control them. There were no electrical nannies to make sure you didn't overstep your ability. If you got too enthusiastic, you paid for it either with a learning experience or a trip to the body shop.

That's why I will never put a Coyote engine under the hood of my cobra!

If I want to be bored, I drive the wife's car!

But, that's just me!

What a silly diatribe about nothing.

jhv48 · #7 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 03:21 PM

Yet you took the time to read it and reprint it.

You might want to look up the term diatribe before you misuse it again.

Modern definition: noun
1. a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism:

And diatribes are rarely considered silly. So pick one, can't be both.

madmaxx · #8 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 10:08 AM

"Which one gives you a woody?" No car ever gave me one. I guess I still have my youth and women for that

In the end a $17.00 bottle of Jim Beam and big breast with pink n....s will do it every time over any car, unless you are in the car doing it and a Cobra is to small to really spread them far enough

I digress....

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcowan

Mileage, sound, intended use, cost, resale value. Who cares???

This isn't really about any of those things. This is a Cobra, your dream car. Those are not the questions you should be asking.

Which one takes your breath away? Which one makes you smile just looking at it? Which one calls to you from the garage, "Drive me"? Which one gives you a woody?

Get that one.

razerwire · #9 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 11:19 AM

If I was to put small block ford in cobra I would probably have Pro Line Racing build an engine. MY friend Jeff Kyles Mustang goes good. Runs on 10 1/2 " drag radials and goes 6.95 at 207 mph.

mptech · #10 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 11:54 AM

If you want modern technology with vintage looks, this is aweful sweet looking:

Not sure of the fit under the hood, but I'd figure out some way to squeeze it in there!

Dimis · #11 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mptech

If you want modern technology with vintage looks, this is aweful sweet looking:

Not sure of the fit under the hood, but I'd figure out some way to squeeze it in there!

That's a great innovation, but I don't think that look works when matched together.

I like the engine, and I like the intake, but I don't like them together

I'd be happier with a modern take on that intake or IF I wanted the vintage look for a coyote I'd opt for the mock Cammer look.

Just saying...

Russell9318 · #12 (**permalink**) 01-28-2015, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimis

That's a great innovation, but I don't think that look works when matched together.

I like the engine, and I like the intake, but I don't like them together

I'd be happier with a modern take on that intake or IF I wanted the vintage look for a coyote I'd opt for the mock Cammer look.

Just saying...

Dimis, Cammer coil covers exist for the Coyote just not sure if they are commercially available at this time, this is what I had in mind when I decided on the Aluminator and these dress up bits will eventually be produced so the ability to have super mod technology with old school look is very appealing. Now all I need is a tune that will give a lumpier sound, is it possible?

lovehamr · #13 (**permalink**) 01-28-2015, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mptech

If you want modern technology with vintage looks, this is aweful sweet looking:

Not sure of the fit under the hood, but I'd figure out some way to squeeze it in there!

I like it. Put some VCs like this on it and the world would be mo betta.

Or maybe this.

DougD · #14 (**permalink**) 01-28-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lovehamr

I like it. Put some VCs like this on it and the world would be mo betta.

Or maybe this.

That's the ticket! Old school looks with modern reliability and power. If that don't give ya a woodie..........

madmaxx · #15 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 04:39 PM

nobody argued about my statement!!!!!!

Cashburn · #16 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

nobody argued about my statement!!!!!!

Nobody cares

madmaxx · #17 (**permalink**) 01-21-2014, 05:35 AM

and that there lies the problem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Nobody cares

dr evil · #18 (**permalink**) 01-20-2014, 08:05 PM

That coyote looks very clean with the stacks.

vector1 · #19 (**permalink**) 01-21-2014, 05:54 AM

considering cost, kc is selling a complete 408 for about $10k to the door, a crate 427 from any of the reputable builders is going to be $12+, an all aluminum LS ready to go is still under the $7k + acc. mark I believe, sorry don't know what the coyote runs.

RestoCreations · #20 (**permalink**) 01-22-2014, 09:34 PM

My vote is for Coyote! I have one with a phase II Roush supercharger in a 67 Mustang. You just can't beat today's technology for your particular build! Great motor and while i dont particularly like the look of the stock intake, it can be dressed up nicely to look quite stunning! Coyote is best bang for your buck hp and drivability wise. Go for it!

If i wouldn't be beheaded for installing one in my 289FIA Kirkham, id be on board too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5-RfWMasm4

http://youtu.be/m5-RfWMasm4