Clutch fork travel

[frdfver]

You may already know to be careful when pulling the retainer that the input shaft stays put, makes life easier.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by frdfver

You may already know to be careful when pulling the retainer that the input shaft stays put, makes life easier.

I'm curious as to what ight happen? Pulling the retainer on a Muncie of Toploader doesn't disturb the input at all. What's different on a Tremec?

[blykins]

Originally Posted by DanEC

I'm curious as to what ight happen? Pulling the retainer on a Muncie of Toploader doesn't disturb the input at all. What's different on a Tremec?

On a Tremec, the input shaft is just "clocked" when installed. That's why it's so easy for an end-user to install a short input shaft by himself. You literally pull the bearing retainer, turn the input shaft a little bit to a keyed position, then pull it out. It's not like a Toploader where you have to drop the countershaft to get the input out.

I've already reminded Jeff, but the bearing retainer goes on in one direction, as it has a feed hole in it that oils the input shaft bearing.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by blykins

On a Tremec, the input shaft is just "clocked" when installed. That's why it's so easy for an end-user to install a short input shaft by himself. You literally pull the bearing retainer, turn the input shaft a little bit to a keyed position, then pull it out. It's not like a Toploader where you have to drop the countershaft to get the input out.

I've already reminded Jeff, but the bearing retainer goes on in one direction, as it has a feed hole in it that oils the input shaft bearing.

Thanks Brent - I was wondering if unlike older transmissions, the Tremec main drive gear wasn't machined integral with the input shaft. Apparently it's not.

[patrickt]

Lippy, take pics of the work before and after and then post a new thread, with descriptive words that show up easily on a Google search. Even showing how you pull the retainer. I know this sounds like an unusual case, and maybe it is, but for the next guy that is using those components, and they are pretty typical after market parts, an informative thread by you would be worth its weight in gold. And this is not just a "Cobra related problem." When I was looking around, I found similar problems to yours on every niche-car-forum you could imagine. You have to detail it in a new thread though, you can't leave it all buried here.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by patrickt

And this is not just a "Cobra related problem." When I was looking around, I found similar problems to yours on every niche-car-forum you could imagine.

I'd be interested in seeing the threads that you found that involve RST clutch kits, not Street Twins. Those are separate clutch kits, with the Street Twins being much larger.

I'm not an "installer", just an engine builder, but I will say that I've sent out engines with these RST clutch kits for BBF's, FE's, and SBF's, and have never heard of anyone having any trouble. All TKO-spec bellhousings from Quick Time, no matter if they are for a 460, FE, or SBF, are all the same depth. The TKO input shaft and bearing retainer are all the same length. The RST pressure plate is the same for all RST kits, and the discs are all the same, with exception of different hubs for different input shaft specs.

It's certainly an interesting scenario, but it doesn't surprise me...

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by blykins

I'd be interested in seeing the threads that you found that involve RST clutch kits, not Street Twins. Those are separate clutch kits, with the Street Twins being much larger.

I'm not an "installer", just an engine builder, but I will say that I've sent out engines with these RST clutch kits for BBF's, FE's, and SBF's, and have never heard of anyone having any trouble. All TKO-spec bellhousings from Quick Time, no matter if they are for a 460, FE, or SBF, are all the same depth. The TKO input shaft and bearing retainer are all the same length. The RST pressure plate is the same for all RST kits, and the discs are all the same, with exception of different hubs for different input shaft specs.

It's certainly an interesting scenario, but it doesn't surprise me...

Well that's just it. A lot of times the threads don't specifically state exactly what the parts are or who made them. They just list the symptoms, the fact that they're using a Tremec, or a Mcleod, or what not. That's why Lippy needs, assuming he fixes it, to start a new thread that includes his exact parts, his exact problem, and his exact fix. And not have it all hidden under "Clutch Fork Travel." A found a couple of different threads that sounded close, like this one: Transmission: Problems installing Tremec TKO but none of them were exactly what Lippy was using.