Used Superformance or New Backdraft from Vintage

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Ace23

Come on friend like everyone before me I won't know how die hard cobra I am until I get in the seat!! I will be keeping my Joe Dirt mustang cobra as a back up but if I fall in love with the 65 cobra it will be gone. I hate mustangs but love the 2003 terminator.....lots of fun to drive with 600rwhp and torque all over the place.

Vette- everytime they come out with a new one the one you have looks like something a stripper from the 80's is driving....DEPRECIATION, C6 Z06 is the only vette I would ever own
Porsche- $$$ maintenance and even though I like them just not my style
Viper- Sound like a tractor but never really cared for them.

You won't know if you're a diehard cobra fan until you get in the seat? I beg to differ. IMO, you know you're a Cobra fanatic when you're born. Cobra owners have a unique genetic marker that is passed along by parents. I'd get a C6 Z06. Great car for money. You'll save time and money.

On a serious note, since time is of the essence with the BDR purchase, I'd really wait to pull the trigger. Take your time, find one that you really love. I prefer new over used, less nonsense to be undone and then there's the less-cooties factor with a new BDR. Also 10,000 miles is WAY too much for me. But SPF's are closer to an authentic 1960's original than a BDR, so that's important to me. Then there's the customer service for pre and post sale. Jay from Vintage will give you excellent customer service. Used SPF? None, but the kind and knowledgable folks here on CC.

So, my point is that we're (humans) all built differently. What's important to me, madmaxx, buddy or others is different than what's important to you.

As for other possible brands, as I said, whatever floats YOUR boat. To me, they haven't made a good looking Vette since 1967. And Porsche's are AWESOME. I just saw a brand new $125,000+ 2014 SRT Viper T/A and it's spectacular. There's a Ferrari 348/355/360. How about a Miata? Like them too.

[Ace23]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

You won't know if you're a diehard cobra fan until you get in the seat? I beg to differ. IMO, you know you're a Cobra fanatic when you're born. Cobra owners have a unique genetic marker that is passed along by parents. I'd get a C6 Z06. Great car for money. You'll save time and money.

On a serious note, since time is of the essence with the BDR purchase, I'd really wait to pull the trigger. Take your time, find one that you really love. I prefer new over used, less nonsense to be undone and then there's the less-cooties factor with a new BDR. Also 10,000 miles is WAY too much for me. But SPF's are closer to an authentic 1960's original than a BDR, so that's important to me. Then there's the customer service for pre and post sale. Jay from Vintage will give you excellent customer service. Used SPF? None, but the kind and knowledgable folks here on CC.

So, my point is that we're (humans) all built differently. What's important to me, madmaxx, buddy or others is different than what's important to you.

As for other possible brands, as I said, whatever floats YOUR boat. To me, they haven't made a good looking Vette since 1967. And Porsche's are AWESOME. I just saw a brand new $125,000+ 2014 SRT Viper T/A and it's spectacular. There's a Ferrari 348/355/360. How about a Miata? Like them too.

I'm not into any other brands as far an ownership goes. Thanks for the advice

[Mark IV]

[quote=RodKnock;1300371]Then there's the customer service for pre and post sale. Jay from Vintage will give you excellent customer service. Used SPF? None, but the kind and knowledgable folks here on CC.

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I agree that Jay gives great service, but I would dispute the lack of SPF support for a used car. There are several dealers that offer free information and support for cars that they never sold. I field three calls for used info or parts/service to every one asking about a new chassis.

I would postulate that if a used SPF buyer never calls us ,he will never get aftersale support. Or is that too simple of a concept? I have provided warranty support for customers who never purchased from me.....and SPF dealers are responsible for a portion of warranty costs....so I spent money on someone who was not my customer. Why? Because it is the right thing to do and makes good JuJu........Karma is a b!tch!

[RodKnock]

[quote=Mark IV;1300409]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I agree that Jay gives great service, but I would dispute the lack of SPF support for a used car. There are several dealers that offer free information and support for cars that they never sold. I field three calls for used info or parts/service to every one asking about a new chassis.

I would postulate that if a used SPF buyer never calls us ,he will never get aftersale support. Or is that too simple of a concept? I have provided warranty support for customers who never purchased from me.....and SPF dealers are responsible for a portion of warranty costs....so I spent money on someone who was not my customer. Why? Because it is the right thing to do and makes good JuJu........Karma is a b!tch!

I shouldn't have used an absolute like the word "none" in terms of support for a buyer of a used SPF. Maybe you're an exception, and these other "several dealers" too, I don't know, because I haven't read about it. Over the years, I have read about SPF support problems, though not from your dealership. I would postulate that a buyer of a used SPF, from a private seller, will not get the same excellent support that Jay will give his clients either sold new or used. Or, is that too simple of a concept?

"I field three calls for used info or parts/service to every one asking about a new chassis." I'm not sure what this means, other than you can answer a telephone. If you mean that you go out of your way to fully answer and resolve questions, order parts, and otherwise quickly followup to the best of abilities for SPF owners who didn't buy the car from you, then that's fantastic.

Having said that, I'm a bit cynical that product support is similar for customers that purchased new and used products in any environment.

[Mark IV]

[quote=RodKnock;1300451]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

"I field three calls for used info or parts/service to every one asking about a new chassis." I'm not sure what this means, other than you can answer a telephone. If you mean that you go out of your way to fully answer and resolve questions, order parts, and otherwise quickly followup to the best of abilities for SPF owners who didn't buy the car from you, then that's fantastic.

I would suggest that the Kirkham's offer top shelf service for resale cars....as does my dealership for Superformance. Yes, I am often capable of answering the phone and sometimes I don't even drool or soil myself. The comment about "three to one" service/parts/help to sales inquiries was to illustrate that a larger portion of my business is support related as opposed to new chassis sales.

Supplying parts has become a big part of our operation. And often we will direct the customer to a generic local source for a common industry part. How much can I make on a $10 radiator hose? Rather than double the price because it is a "Superformance/Cobra/Kirkham/Backdraft" part we just give the customer a part number and send them to the local NAPA/CARQUEST, etc.