Thank you for saying how you 'respectfully disagree'. I assume you were adressing my comment about respect and your demonstrated use of it across the past ten or more years. I guess if you say your disagreement is respectful, that makes it so, and I'll let you have that out of the mutual respect.
I also noticed you say aggrandizing and I say aggrandising. Hmmm... I assume that was intentional as well since you say tomato and I say tomato. There must be a song there somewhere, but it ain't kumbaya as we sit by the fire.
I will agree with you on your point about calling any of these kit cars 'replicas'. You can check my record on this for the past 11 years and you will find that I prefer 'kit car' and have written a number of posts to the effect that the term 'replica' has only come about recently and primarily with the advent of a lot of well-heeled folks simply writing checks for their kit cars. Given the amount of money they spend they feel the term 'kit car' is not commensurate with their cash outlay, so the term 'replica' has become popular. I am sure some will disagree, but I have been in this kit cobra game for 24 years and have seen the change first hand. My kit cobra went together in '90 and '91. I went to my first Run and Gun in '92 or '93 in Indianapolis and frankly no one I spoke to called their kit cobra a 'replica' in general conversation. I will further add that in my opinion, a REAL replica would have to replicate all aspects of the original, including round frame, brazed suspension arms, girling calipers on solid rotors, aluminum body, etc, etc...
So, in summary, I think mine is a 'kit car' (heck, back then 'kit' was stretching the truth as you had to figure out a whole lot of it yourself). I think 'replica' in itself is a self-serving term that has come into popularity in the last 10 years, primarily because some folks have a hang-up about the connotation of the term 'kit car'. I think yours is a 'reissue' since it was provided by some company related to some guy named Shelby. I think very few out there are truly 'replicas'. I don't agree that repeating SAACs opinion is providing 'facts' (SAACs opinion is just that, an opinion). I will continue to call all of them 'cobras' since in layman's terms that is what they are and I am a simple guy, not a lawyer. I respectfully request you change your handle to Reissue1.
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...I will further add that in my opinion, a REAL replica would have to replicate all aspects of the original, including round frame, brazed suspension arms, girling calipers on solid rotors, aluminum body, etc, etc...
BTW, and I'm by no means an expert, the very early CSX4000's and Kirkham's, did have much of the original stuff like Lucas electrical components, Girling brakes, solid rotors, Smiths gauges and the hood and trunk hinges identical to the 3000 series cars.
If that stuff is important to a buyer, then the early CSX4000's and Kirkham's, to a lesser extent, would be more valuable. To the right buyer. I'm not the right buyer, since I prefer the stronger, lighter billet aluminum suspension, modern Speedhut gauges, battery in trunk, etc.
BTW, and I'm by no means an expert, the very early CSX4000's and Kirkham's, did have much of the original stuff like Lucas electrical components, Girling brakes, solid rotors, Smiths gauges and the hood and trunk hinges identical to the 3000 series cars.
If that stuff is important to a buyer, then the early CSX4000's and Kirkham's, to a lesser extent, would be more valuable. To the right buyer. I'm not the right buyer, since I prefer the stronger, lighter billet aluminum suspension, modern Speedhut gauges, battery in trunk, etc.
Assright...I got me an original Kirkham*, not one of them damn reissue versions like you and Evan.
*Wildwoods rather than Girlings...nice to actually stop a few times in a row.
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Continuation, replica, kit car, SAAC, Webster, heritage, DNA, reproduction, yada,yada,yada. DON'T CARE! I (we) have really cool cars and I built it my way with a Chevy engine, you build it your way , make your choices and enjoy the ride!
Continuation, replica, kit car, SAAC, Webster, heritage, DNA, reproduction, yada,yada,yada. DON'T CARE! I (we) have really cool cars and I built it my way with a Chevy engine, you build it your way , make your choices and enjoy the ride!
Thor, u knows I luvs ya, but if all agreed that "(we)" have really cool cars then this topic would have died a quick death on the Ford engine cobra vs. Chevy engine cobra- race for bragging rights? thread - where it all started. That is why you are here continuing to fight the good fight
Here ya go AL since you requested pictures. Not mine...but if you want a REAL One...try this for size.
Actually I'm very upset that the Pond Collection is up for auction. I thought the grandmother and grand-daughter at least would keep it since she stated over and over she is a car girl.
Here ya go AL since you requested pictures. Not mine...but if you want a REAL One...try this for size.
Actually I'm very upset that the Pond Collection is up for auction. I thought the grandmother and grand-daughter at least would keep it since she stated over and over she is a car girl.
In this case not so much entertainment as interesting, seeing the real deal is always a pleasure no matter what the make.
Probably a "car girl" in the sense that money can be made collecting & selling, we've all seen how frequently original cobras are flipped, it's a business unto itself, like real-estate on steroids.
I just wanted to show how one member has less than zero respect for others opinions.
Ok Can we get back to Chevy In a Cobra, Chevy in a Replica Cobra, Chevy in a Kit Cobra, Chevy in a re-issue Cobra....or whatever you like to call them.
I just wanted to show how one member has less than zero respect for others opinions.
Ok Can we get back to Chevy In a Cobra, Chevy in a Replica Cobra, Chevy in a Kit Cobra, Chevy in a re-issue Cobra....or whatever you like to call them.
I just wanted to show how one member has less than zero respect for others opinions.
Lol, my daddy always said the boys in the suburbs can get down & dirty.
Btw, if WE don't like the SAAC definition of things, and WE don't like the Webster definition of things, then why don't WE devise a point system to rank all things cobra? Originals are 100 pt cars, replicated cars get points for accuracy in: body, motor, transmission, rear end, chassis, suspension, brakes, wheels, cockpit, instrumentation ... what else?
Maybe start a new thread with just that purpose, deciding which assembly/components count and their respective point weights ought to be a real hoot
No I ain't doin' it, but I will certainly participate. This sounds like a job for rodneym? Maybe have a 10 member BOD to vote on the point weighting and categories. I want Thor maine on the BOD, idle hands are the devil's workshop with that guy plus a little unbridled chevy enthusiasm will help keep in check the ford maniacs.
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