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05-22-2014, 09:53 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Originally Posted by AL427SBF
Until the SAAC defines what motor or transmission must go into a CSX Continuation Cobra, a chevy powered automatic is just as valid as a Ford powered standard in a CSX Continuation Cobra. The only discriminator is that these rollers come from SAI.
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Well, if SAAC doesn't define the drivetrain, in effect not completely defining what a continuation Cobra is, then who does?
I suppose that would be us, the market!
Now, for all those who care to play, please list my three examples of contunation Cobras by how you (all of us) would value them in the market, from most expensive to least expensive. All rollers are otherwise optioned the same.
1) CSX4000/6000 with FE
2) CSX4000/6000 with Windsor
3) CSX4000/6000 with any other motor (Chevy BB, SB or Iron Duke  )
One caviat, all motors would be the same vintage or quality of build. Not comparing a 390FE to a new Cup motor. All three examples would be original, or aftermarket aluminum, etc.
My list would be the order I placed them in.
I'm not trying to stir the pot. If SAAC doesn't define it, then we do with our wallets, no?
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05-22-2014, 10:25 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR track car, SL-C track car
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
My list would be the order I placed them in.
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That would be my order also.
I expect a high percentage would vote likewise.
As many have said, cost is the primary (not the only!) reason for the other options.
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05-22-2014, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Well, if SAAC doesn't define the drivetrain, in effect not completely defining what a continuation Cobra is, then who does?
I suppose that would be us, the market!
Now, for all those who care to play, please list my three examples of contunation Cobras by how you (all of us) would value them in the market, from most expensive to least expensive. All rollers are otherwise optioned the same.
1) CSX4000/6000 with FE
2) CSX4000/6000 with Windsor
3) CSX4000/6000 with any other motor (Chevy BB, SB or Iron Duke  )
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Agree, just like replicas you have good csx continuations, bad csx continuations and csx continuations somewhere in between
1) CSX4000/6000 with Windsor
2) CSX4000/6000 with Chevy SB, then BB
3) CSX4000/6000 with FE
4) CSX4000/6000 with any other motor
  
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05-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL427SBF
Agree, just like replicas you have good csx continuations, bad csx continuations and csx continuations somewhere in between 
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I think we all could agree on that. 
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05-22-2014, 02:41 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AL427SBF
Agree, just like replicas you have good csx continuations, bad csx continuations and csx continuations somewhere in between
1) CSX4000/6000 with Windsor
2) CSX4000/6000 with Chevy SB, then BB
3) CSX4000/6000 with FE
4) CSX4000/6000 with any other motor
  
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OMG, that's your sequential order of how you would value them? Seriously? Well, at least you're consistent. Actually, I'm quite surprised you listed the FE above the "with any other motor" category.
You do realize the market doesn't agree with you.
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05-22-2014, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
OMG, that's your sequential order of how you would value them? Seriously? Well, at least you're consistent. Actually, I'm quite surprised you listed the FE above the "with any other motor" category.
You do realize the market doesn't agree with you.
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Yes, I am quite aware of the ranking not in-line with "the market". The day "the market" trumps what I want (value) ... you might as well put a gun to my head. I'm not in this for the resale value, not even a remote consideration. I find it interesting that resale value seems to be a prerequisite for most in making a buying decision with this particular hobby 
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05-22-2014, 03:47 PM
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I find it interesting that resale value seems to be a prerequisite for most in making a buying decision 
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Not so much in the buying aspect, but the fact that it (CSX in this case) has a greater cost and retained value is indicative of its provenance due to legacy, accuracy, demand, OPTIONS, etc.
The light hearted purpose of 'the list' was to show that, since the foremost experts (SAAC) don't define the drivetrain of a continuation, or reissue, then the value of the Cobras will 'say' what SAAC doesn't, and the more accurate will fetch more coin than the less accurate, and that evidence is as concrete as an ally SB weighing less than an ally BB.
If we don't want to use SAAC...
and we don't want to use Websters...
and now we don't want to use the market...
...then...
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05-22-2014, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Not so much in the buying aspect, but the fact that it (CSX in this case) has a greater cost and retained value is indicative of its provenance due to legacy, accuracy, demand, OPTIONS, etc.
The light hearted purpose of 'the list' was to show that, since the foremost experts (SAAC) don't define the drivetrain of a continuation, or reissue, then the value of the Cobras will 'say' what SAAC doesn't, and the more accurate will fetch more coin than the less accurate, and that evidence is as concrete as an ally SB weighing less than an ally BB.
If we don't want to use SAAC...
and we don't want to use Websters...
and now we don't want to use the market...
...then...
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I think we're on the same page, let the market determine value, hell it's the American way! I'm just saying resale value comes up all the time and new buyers usually ask the question.
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