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ACademic 05-28-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303152)
I am building a hot rod shaped like a Cobra...maybe a rat-rod with Mad Max touches.

This thread is about to achieve critical mass. :LOL:

Jamo 05-28-2014 02:32 PM

Well, it's becoming a mass of sumthin...

RodKnock 05-28-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303152)
Paint? Why bother.

Well, if you had said "Beige Paint? Why bother." Then I'd totally agree with you.

For the record, and most people don't know this about my Cobra, my Kirkham isn't painted Chrome. It's actually polished aluminum. Keep that on the down low though. :cool:

BTW, San Francisco just called. Mayor Ed Lee is pissed that you don't own a place in The City. :LOL:

mptech 05-28-2014 02:37 PM

I see a pattern of historical inaccuracies and comments I don't appreciate.
Sure, you can call them whatever you want, but why go out of your way to call them "fakes" and "hotrods shaped like Cobras".
Are you just trying to piss people off?
Check your history, they started as race cars, that's why they look like that.


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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1302870)
From reading online history, the side pipes became popular in the 1980s because buyers of hot rods shaped like a Cobra wanted the 'race' look. The side pipes do nothing more than burn your legs and disturb the peace.

Don't worry about naysayers; they got the wrong history. It is your car and your money. Personally, I like the street look.

I would compare the 'side pipe' look to modern import car guys putting cartoon-like rear wings and racing/parts stickers on their street cars. It just screams 'race boy'


RodKnock 05-28-2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mptech (Post 1303163)
Check your history, they started as race cars, that's why they look like that.


Maybe this will help:



RodKnock 05-28-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303143)
I read an article that the Kirkhams supplied the alum bodies to these 'continutation' chassis.

Just to clarify the entire mess of the OP.

Yes, Kirkham does supply the aluminum bodies to Shelby for their continuation series (CSX4000/6000) and has for many years (mid-2000's approximately). But Kirkham isn't connected to the aluminum bodies used for Shelby's "Completion" Cobra's (CSX3000's) built in the 1990's, the subject of the OP.

AL427SBF 05-28-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by razerwire (Post 1303129)
AL 427 SBF Thank you. nyg thread was intended to get a knee jerk reaction, and due to recent circumstances my knee jerked. I take my 20 lashes and thank you for it. It was over the top.

no harm, no foul, constant vigilance is required to not fall prey to a buffoon's bait.
a quick recap of some of the bait used so far -
  • cobras should have the options of a fully loaded caddy
  • replica makers should rewicker their websites to cater to the justin bieber and miley cyrus fan club
  • sidepipes were an add-on by replica makers to satisfy the hotrodders of the world
  • can't beat nissan duracell power for a 100 foot drag race
  • online racing with your logitech simulator beats the hell out of driving a V8 powered hotrod with cobra body

... need I say more? looking forward to the next cast to see what sucker bait is on the hook :LOL:

NewYorkGuy 05-28-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AL427SBF (Post 1303167)
no harm, no foul, constant vigilance is required to not fall prey to a buffoon's bait.
a quick recap of some of the bait used so far -
  • cobras should have the options of a fully loaded caddy
  • replica makers should rewicker their websites to cater to the justin bieber and miley cyrus fan club
  • sidepipes were an add-on by replica makers to satisfy the hotrodders of the world
  • can't beat nissan duracell power for a 100 foot drag race
  • online racing with your logitech simulator beats the hell out of driving a V8 powered hotrod with cobra body

... need I say more? looking forward to the next cast to see what sucker bait is on the hook :LOL:

corrections, sir:
These hot rods shaped like a Cobras are 60+ years technology. Who wants to drive today without a radio, cruise control, GPS, Nav systems, heated seats, power steering, automatics?

If JB or Miley were driving and promoting these hot rods shaped like a Cobra, there would be a spike on sales. Go tell Corvette bosses that putting a stingray in a movie aimed at young adults, Captain America 2, doesn't fit with their sales demographics.

gas engines cannot match electric torque. Go tell Ferrari, Porsche, McLaren, BMW, Tesla that they wasting their money on electric powered cars.

I don't own a "logictech" and you don't know anything about video games. If you did, u would have invested money into this industry.

I play racing games because I don't want to sweat in a hot rod without AC or a roof. I love air conditioning too much.

Last I checked, the majority of real cobras did not have side pipes.

Your obsession with me is a bit... weird.

best,
nyg

rodneym 05-28-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303169)
Who wants to drive today without a radio, cruise control, GPS, Nav systems, heated seats, power steering, automatics

ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra :D

And come on, now, video games don't cut it. Simulators either.

Come over for a ride and I'll give you an experience that will make you forget about a love doll, or whatever simulation you speak of ;)

NYG, have you driven a Cobra? I was all set on a Ferrari, Maserati or a Lotus until I drove a Cobra. I haven't looked back at those cars since, unless it was in my rear view mirror.

You owe it to yourself.

NewYorkGuy 05-28-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1303170)
ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra :D

And come on, now, video games don't cut it. Simulators either.

Come over for a ride and I'll give you an experience that will make you forget about a love doll, or whatever simulation you speak of ;)

NYG, have you driven a Cobra? I was all set on a Ferrari, Maserati or a Lotus until I drove a Cobra. I haven't looked back at those cars since, unless it was in my rear view mirror.

You owe it to yourself.

I have driven a home build FFR and a Backdraft RT3. The FFR was crap, looked and felt cheap. The RT3 was a better drive, well built hot rod.

Look, these hot rods are fantastic on the open road & wind in your hair experience but they are a sweat box in traffic. No roof, no AC, no cup holders, no radio, noisy, crappy seats, gas fumes in your face makes for a lousy ride.

I'd like to return to my original question. In your view, did Carroll Shelby swindle the public with these Cobras from the 1990s?

RodKnock 05-28-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1303170)
ME! At least when it comes to a Cobra :D

A/C in car without a top? You're killing the environment anyway.

Radio? The music today sucks. You must listen to the symphony of your chimney-smelling sidepipes.

Cup holders? Real men and women just put their coffee cups between their legs and drive.

GPS/Navi? No iPhone huh? Anyway, real men and women don't need directions. They always know where they're going. It's a Zen thing.

P/S? Come on, you know your flabby arms need some exercise. And Cruise Control? You know your flabby calves and weak tendons need the same help as your flabby arms.

Heated seats? Your butt (gluts in trainer's talk) is your body's biggest muscle. Big muscles aren't wimps. They can take the chill.

Automatic transmission? Real men and women don't flick buttons on a steering wheel or just let the car shift for itself. Think of shifting the transmission manually as mental exercise to ward off the onset of dementia.

AL427SBF 05-28-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303152)
... I am building a hot rod shaped like a Cobra and that is the true. It won't have any Cobra badges and I won't call it anything else but a hot rod, maybe a rat-rod with Mad Max touches ...

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303169)
... I play racing games because I don't want to sweat in a hot rod without AC or a roof. I love air conditioning too much ...

Constantly at war with one's alter ego, must be a biatch!
I wonder which one is going to win out, the gaming wonder or the armchair quarterback :LOL:

RodKnock 05-28-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303175)
I'd like to return to my original question. In your view, did Carroll Shelby swindle the public with these Cobras from the 1990s?

Buy a Registry and all your questions will be answered.

I'd also recommend buying a Honda Odyssey. They come with a built-in vacuum and that's a really a nice option to have.

I'm actually thinking of getting a built-in vacuum for my Kirkham, since I'm constantly getting donut crumbs and spilling coffee on the floor. **) :LOL:

dallas_ 05-28-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mptech (Post 1303163)
Are you just trying to piss people off?

Obviously.
The phrase 'don't feed the trolls' would apply here.

rodneym 05-28-2014 04:59 PM

I'm waiting for the Google Cobra.

NewYorkGuy 05-28-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AL427SBF (Post 1303178)
Constantly at war with one's alter ego, must be a biatch!
I wonder which one is going to win out, the gaming wonder or the armchair quarterback :LOL:

Good thing these hot rods have trunks, need storage for lawn chairs and SAAC books.

rodneym 05-28-2014 05:05 PM

Now THAT was funny.

RodKnock 05-28-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1303182)
I'm waiting for the Google Cobra.

Those would be WAY cool. Driverless Cobra's and you can use a joystick from home or office to "pilot" it just like a drone.

RodKnock 05-28-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1303183)
Good thing these hot rods have trunks, need storage for lawn chairs and SAAC books.

Realistically, Volume I is quite a big book, so all you will be able to fit with the book in the trunk are the armrests of the lawn chairs.

DanEC 05-28-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1303176)
A/C in car without a top? You're killing the environment anyway.

Radio? The music today sucks. You must listen to the symphony of your chimney-smelling sidepipes.

Cup holders? Real men and women just put their coffee cups between their legs and drive.

GPS/Navi? No iPhone huh? Anyway, real men and women don't need directions. They always know where they're going. It's a Zen thing.

P/S? Come on, you know your flabby arms need some exercise. And Cruise Control? You know your flabby calves and weak tendons need the same help as your flabby arms.

Heated seats? Your butt (gluts in trainer's talk) is your body's biggest muscle. Big muscles aren't wimps. They can take the chill.

Automatic transmission? Real men and women don't flick buttons on a steering wheel or just let the car shift for itself. Think of shifting the transmission manually as mental exercise to ward off the onset of dementia.

Man - you just about used up my whole library of cliches in the above. I love it! So true. I have a 427 Corvette with monster motor and no accessories and now my little Cobra without even a radio. Real men don't need no stinking air conditioning or power steering. :LOL:


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