This is What Pisses me Off!!!!!!

[PatBuckley]

If it isn't a car built by Shelby then it is a copy.

Then or now and all the years in between. Period.

Evan is correct, the rest of you are just full of sour grapes because you can't afford a real one.

I have owned a kit (ERA535) and a copy (KMP185) and actually felt better about driving the kit, it felt a lot more honest than a car that was such an obvious copy.

Then again, I love golf, a sport for those of us who are coordinated and built more athletically and who prefer to get out there and participate rather than sit on the couch and watch or pontificate from the safety of a keyboard.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

If it isn't a car built by Shelby then it is a copy.

Then or now and all the years in between. Period.

I'm sure you are not including the AC Cobras completed by AC Cars Ltd in the 60's that were sold to customers outside the USA as being copies, right?

[REAL 1]

No I think that was likely an oversight but I let him clarify.

In the end the SAAC Registry sets it all out clearly, distinctly and with explanation. It is the authoritative position. However, for those that don't like facts, law and authoritative sources clouding personal opinion there is the CC peanut gallery position.

[PatBuckley]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

No I think that was likely an oversight but I let him clarify.

In the end the SAAC Registry sets it all out clearly, distinctly and with explanation. It is the authoritative position. However, for those that don't like facts, law and authoritative sources clouding personal opinion there is the CC peanut gallery position.

My apologies to Evan and A-Snake, I should have been more specific.

RodKnock - After I stopped racing cars, I needed something challenging to do and discovered golf to be extremely challenging. I play about 5 times a week.

Oh, please stop putting words in my mouth. I think it is weird that you can't read something and understand it!

I do realize that we aren't all cut out of the same cloth, feel free to pursue whatever activities that appeal to you.....

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

Oh, please stop putting words in my mouth. I think it is weird that you can't read something and understand it!

You said you felt more honest driving your ERA. So that must mean you felt less honest driving your Kirkham. That's how I understand it and it doesn't make any sense to me.

And it's wonderful you took up golf after racing and there's no doubt that it's challenging, but you also stated the folks that pontificate with our keyboards here aren't coordinated or athletically built.

Well, I'd like to stand up for those of us that "pontificate with our keyboards" here on CC, yet are coordinated and athletically built, but can't play golf worth a crap.

Just giving you a hard time Pat.

[PatBuckley]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

You said you felt more honest driving your ERA. So that must mean you felt less honest driving your Kirkham. That's how I understand it and it doesn't make any sense to me.

And it's wonderful you took up golf after racing and there's no doubt that it's challenging, but you also stated the folks that pontificate with our keyboards here aren't coordinated or athletically built.

Well, I'd like to stand up for those of us that "pontificate with our keyboards" here on CC, yet are coordinated and athletically built, but can't play golf worth a crap.

Just giving you a hard time Pat.

I know, RN. As I hope you know, I was doing the same thing.

I don't come around here often but sometimes, when I scan through some of the thread topics, I see one that looks like it may be interesting so I check it out.

Seems like nothing has changed.

[GeorgiaSnake]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

No I think that was likely an oversight but I let him clarify.

In the end the SAAC Registry sets it all out clearly, distinctly and with explanation. It is the authoritative position. However, for those that don't like facts, law and authoritative sources clouding personal opinion there is the CC peanut gallery position.

Looks more like just a bunch of guys pontificating and trying to make what they own more valuable. Real - fake - clone - as Hillary would say "What difference at this point does it make?”

They are cars and as such meant to be driven and enjoyed. Standing in the parking lot looking at your car as you pull on your pecker and discuss pedigree is crazy. Get in the thing and drive

[GeorgiaSnake]

One more thing - golf can be very demanding physically - until you have driven around carrying a heavy bottle of beer and swung a metal club 150 - 200 times - then spent hours crashing through weeds and underbrush looking for your balls you need to remain silent

[PatBuckley]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaSnake

One more thing - golf can be very demanding physically - until you have driven around carrying a heavy bottle of beer and swung a metal club 150 - 200 times - then spent hours crashing through weeds and underbrush looking for your balls you need to remain silent

Listen you Asp!

I never drink while playing golf. It is hard enough to do sober. As for swinging he club 150-200 times? I am way better than that! 110 times!

[GeorgiaSnake]

Funny - I have been away for years and decided to pop in and see what's up. Same old poop - mine is real your isn't.

Nothing will ever change my mind "Real Ones" are the originals - EVERTHING after that is a copy - continuation cars - they are real in the sense that you can feel them when you touch them - beyond that - copies.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaSnake

Looks more like just a bunch of guys pontificating and trying to make what they own more valuable. Real - fake - clone - as Hillary would say "What difference at this point does it make?”

They are cars and as such meant to be driven and enjoyed. Standing in the parking lot looking at your car as you pull on your pecker and discuss pedigree is crazy. Get in the thing and drive

Hillary is an ass and if she or you can't figure out what difference it make both of you are clueless and she never should be in a position of public trust again ever.

I don't pontificate. I let the Registry do my talking to counter those tryi g to devalue what they don't own. Lets get that one straight.

Drive my Shelby every weekend almost during the season. Almost 8000 miles now.

As to pecker pulling...well you seem to know more about than me.

[PatBuckley]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Hillary is an ass and if she or you can't figure out what difference it make both of you are clueless and she never should be in a position of public trust again ever.

I don't pontificate. I let the Registry do my talking to counter those tryi g to devalue what they don't own. Lets get that one straight.

Drive my Shelby every weekend almost during the season. Almost 8000 miles now.

As to pecker pulling...well you seem to know more about than me.

I am reporting this post to the Moderators due to the ban on politics.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

I am reporting this post to the Moderators due to the ban on politics.

This is at least the 2nd time he's recently tried to derail a CC thread into politics. Ban!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

If it isn't a car built by Shelby then it is a copy.

Then or now and all the years in between. Period.

Evan is correct, the rest of you are just full of sour grapes because you can't afford a real one.

I have owned a kit (ERA535) and a copy (KMP185) and actually felt better about driving the kit, it felt a lot more honest than a car that was such an obvious copy.

Then again, I love golf, a sport for those of us who are coordinated and built more athletically and who prefer to get out there and participate rather than sit on the couch and watch or pontificate from the safety of a keyboard.

I'll ignore the copy, clone, replication, recreation, reproduction, geniune, real, original nonsense, but "golf is a sport for those of us who are coordinated and built more athletically and who prefer to get out there and participate rather than sit on the couch and watch or pontificate from the safety of a keyboard"?

Someone is pontificating that golf is a sport and for those who are built more athletically. Have you been to golf course? Really?

Walking, swinging a golf club and driving a golf cart around while drinking beer for 18 holes is definitely a sport for the athletically coordinated and "built."

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by PatBuckley

I have owned a kit (ERA535) and a copy (KMP185) and actually felt better about driving the kit, it felt a lot more honest than a car that was such an obvious copy.

I think this statement is weird. As a Kirkham owner, he felt less honest?

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think this statement is weird. As a Kirkham owner, he felt less honest?

It had nothing to do "honesty" I'm sure. There is a stark difference between opinion and honesty. He had his opinion way back when and now sees it the way he sees it I guess.

Could be he now concurs with the Registry. Certainly on sound ground with that.