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06-24-2014, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Quogue, NY,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427SC by Unique Motorcars, Ford 302 V8
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Hi everybody,
My 1966 427SC Cobra replica by Unique Motorcars, built in 1995 by HRE Motors, and which I recently bought from another gentleman from this forum, is registered in NY as a "1996 CUSTO" with a strange but perfectly legal "NY+5 digits" VIN number. Apparently the previous owner did a good job at making it all legal and clean, my new registration and inspection went like a walk in the park.

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06-24-2014, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 306 Ford Racing Holley carb.
Posts: 49
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My FFR is titled in Arizona as a 1965 Shelby Special Construction Roadster. The "first registered" date is 06/1965. No DOT or smog inspections required. Plates are historic.
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06-24-2014, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
Posts: 1,572
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Originally Posted by Cobra #3170
I have a question that might require input from NED. How many 427 Cobras were ever registered with any DMV as 1965's? I believe all the SC's were all sold in 1966 or later and know that Dick Smiths Cobra was registered as a 1966. Weren't all the early 3000 cars sold as race cars and not registered?
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My guess is, you're right. Even the earliest 427 Cobras sold didn't make it into customers' hands until the fall of '65, and most were labeled right on the Shelby American invoice as a "1966 Cobra." And those that weren't would likely have been titled as 1966s because that's how car dealers perceived them.
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06-24-2014, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Mohawk,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster,351w 405HP
Posts: 174
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My Classic Roadsters is registered with a NY-73685 vin; and as required here in the great state of NY, as a 2014 custom. No choice in the matter...glad it's finally done.
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06-24-2014, 02:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Jerome,
ID
Cobra Make, Engine: CRII, 2005, 351W Stroked
Posts: 25
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My Classic Roadster II is recorded here in Idaho as a 1965 Ford Cobra Convertible with a "blind" note as being a Replica.
The car was produced in 2005 and came up from the SF Bay Area where it had a year make assignment as 2005.
It has the SB100 assignment but here in my part of Southern Idaho we don't have smog stations.
The gal at DMV really had a hard time trying to assign it.
To be straight I did not solicit the "1965 Cobra" title. That is the way it's done here in Idaho.
When I'm asked about the car and is it real the proper reply always is "it's a Classic Roadster II 1965 Cobra Replica" One person told me I was wrong and it has to be an original. I thought about correcting him but then.....
And yes, my son and drove it back home. What a kick of a road trip. 800 miles.
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06-24-2014, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cornwall,
Ont
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Mk11. 306EFI,B303,24lb Inj.mass air conv.Pollished Power Plus Top End, Power Steering , 425+hp
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Mine is a FFR Mk11 It is registered in Ontario Canada as a 1965 427 Roadster . Not sure if this is good or bad thing !!! This is the way it got Registered
Cheer's
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06-24-2014, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Heath,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 8000 Slab Side series, 289 High Pro , Eight Stack EFI system ,TKO500
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My Shelby Cobra CSX 8000 series is titled in Texas as a 1965 Shelby Cobra Roadster.
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Participating in a gun buy back program because
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06-24-2014, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
Well done so far...keeping to the facts per the request of the threadstarter.
I pity the fool who deviates from this.
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Yeah, amazing what happens when only facts are present  (except for this comment from the peanut gallery.)
So far so good.
What I see is that there are some places that have endorsed or recognized the "year it represents" more than others. It would be interesting to see a state by state comparison of exactly how they are interpreted.
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06-24-2014, 07:48 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 8000 Slab Side series, 289 High Pro , Eight Stack EFI system ,TKO500
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The fact and only the facts.
[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AMIZGrgWOO4[/ame]
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Participating in a gun buy back program because
you think that criminals have too many guns
is like having yourself castrated because you
think your neighbors have too many kids.
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06-24-2014, 08:22 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2607 Roush 427IR 8-stack EFI
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My SPF is registered in PR as a Ford Shelby Cobra 1965. Same in the title of ownership.
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06-24-2014, 08:28 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2607 Roush 427IR 8-stack EFI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
I bet real1 has his registered as a 1965 Shelby cobra!
Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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No, you are wrong, probably he has registered his Replica as "Original 1965 Shelby Cobra" !!
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06-24-2014, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077
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Oh so funny! When we first went to our new house for the first week or so in Vegas they had Dragnet on one of the local TV channels (over the air, not cable). Now they've shifted things around. Webb's delivery was so great. "Just the facts maam"
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06-24-2014, 09:36 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dallas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 3020 Competition, 427; CSX 4385 Aluminum Body, 427; CSX 2096, 289
Posts: 375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedsel
My guess is, you're right. Even the earliest 427 Cobras sold didn't make it into customers' hands until the fall of '65, and most were labeled right on the Shelby American invoice as a "1966 Cobra." And those that weren't would likely have been titled as 1966s because that's how car dealers perceived them.
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I believe that Ned is correct
CSX-3020 was invoiced to Shelby American on 1/26/65 and is titled as a 1966 Shelby Cobra
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06-24-2014, 09:44 PM
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1965 Cobra
Quote:
Originally Posted by gthompson
I believe that Ned is correct
CSX-3020 was invoiced to Shelby American on 1/26/65 and is titled as a 1966 Shelby Cobra
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So why are all you guys calling your Cobra's 1965's? I think the 1965 myth started in the replica community along with calling them Shelby Cobra's.
I am repeating myself here, but when they were new everybody called them AC Cobras at least on the west coast.
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06-24-2014, 10:05 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra #3170
So why are all you guys calling your Cobra's 1965's? I think the 1965 myth started in the replica community along with calling them Shelby Cobra's.
I am repeating myself here, but when they were new everybody called them AC Cobras at least on the west coast.
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I'm sure they're were originally called 1965's, at least in CA, because smog pumps/devices were fitted to cars starting in 1966.
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06-25-2014, 06:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold - Shelby Cobra CSX6045, 468 ci all aluminum Shelby engine
Posts: 370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra #3170
So why are all you guys calling your Cobra's 1965's? I think the 1965 myth started in the replica community along with calling them Shelby Cobra's.
I am repeating myself here, but when they were new everybody called them AC Cobras at least on the west coast.
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I call mine a 1965 because that's what the MSO from Shelby says.
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06-25-2014, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Look-a-like cobra POS
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True, here is what an MSO looks like:
Shelby Continuation MSO question
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06-25-2014, 09:16 AM
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My MSO also identified my car as a 1965 Shelby Cobra and the IL Sec of State titled it as such.
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06-25-2014, 10:41 AM
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Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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But, it should be known that Shelby's sleight-of-hand here was to claim that "1965" was the model number rather than the year. Pretty standard operating procedure for him. Had he designated the cars "Best-ever Shelby Cobras" the title would have said that instead.
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06-25-2014, 10:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold - Shelby Cobra CSX6045, 468 ci all aluminum Shelby engine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedsel
But, it should be known that Shelby's sleight-of-hand here was to claim that "1965" was the model number rather than the year. Pretty standard operating procedure for him. Had he designated the cars "Best-ever Shelby Cobras" the title would have said that instead.
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Actually, the continuation series MSO says Model Year: 1965
There may still be some slight of hand involved but it clearly says year and that's the DMV uses, at least in my state.
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