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Old 09-02-2014, 09:03 AM
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Default 427 S/C or 427 Street (Which has the greater value?)

All things being equal (builder, engine, quality of components...) Is it THAT MUCH harder to sell a well done STREET build (under-car exhaust, no roll bar, street dash, etc..) vs an equally well done S/C? It seems 99.9% of the available Cobras to buy are SC cars with stripes. Is this only because this is what people want to buy? I personally prefer the street look and a solid painted Cobra. Those who have built/sold both, I'd be interested in your perspective.
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Don't know about actual market value comparison or desirability between the two. As you pointed out there are very few street roadster replicas produced, and even fewer that are done trying to mimic correct details. If someone is in the market to buy a decent street roadster 427, I think they are going to be looking for a good long time until one comes along. And if someone wants a correct narrow hip street roadster 427, I think they are going to have to go see Kirkham or Metalmorphis.
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For originals, I'd say the S/C would be quite a bit more valuable due to its rarity.
As far as replicas go, that's a tough question because I would be willing to pay more for a street car if it were done well (accurate) but I'm not most buyers in those terms.
I think most people still want the side pipes and loud noise though.
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The nice thing about a street car (which I built) is that when/if it's sold its pretty easy to convert to the (same-ol-same-ol ) SC look. I have the roll bar under a bench and sidepipes and scoop can be purchased for a few hundred bucks. Just need to cut some holes and screw on a scoop.

My philosophy was build what I wanted and don't worry too much about re-sale.
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The market wants S/Cs. A very small subset is looking for FIA, 289 and 427 street cars.

Look at the kit makers. The vast majority of new builds are 427 S/Cs

Build what you like and enjoy. These cars are a very poor investment.

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I'm Iv'e the belief that if either is done well then either will sell equally well.

I've a SC b/c that's what I wanted... but I'd rather have a well built STREET that a poorly built SC.
I'm sure STREET guys would feel the same visa-viser...
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The market wants S/Cs. A very small subset is looking for FIA, 289 and 427 street cars.

Look at the kit makers. The vast majority of new builds are 427 S/Cs

Build what you like and enjoy. These cars are a very poor investment.

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Yes, there's probably a smaller demand for 427 Street models, but there's also a smaller supply too. Depending on the manufacturer choice and build quality, I would suggest that you'll be able to find a buyer as quickly as someone with a similar build S/C. Value difference would be negligible, if any.

Way back when, I could have very easily purchased a Street 427 model from Kirkham.
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In the Superformance world I have recently found more customers looking to do the "Roadster" lately. Personally, I LOVE the no scoop, no stripe smooth street car look but we sell about ten to one S/C to Roadster.

But buy what YOU like and resale be damned! You will probably be cold when your heirs sell the damn thing!
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I plan to convert my solid color (red) S/C back to a street version this coming winter. While I love the look of the S/C I grew up in a street version CSX 3116. I have obtained a set of side pipe cut out pieces from ERA & plan to fit & create them to an exacting fit plug/blank in the side pipe cutout locations on my S/C & color match them to the rest of my ride. They will be nut & bolt mounted on the inside of the body & will be removable if I decide to convert back the a S/C version. I have yet to decide on wether I will create a color matching gasket for the blanks or not. I will use custom made alum. blanks for the roll bar; color matched as well. These blanks will operate much like electrical KO (knock out) seals used to plug holes on industrial electrical panels with a backing plate & wing or nyloc nut to hold them into place. I have yet to decide on wether to replace the scooped hood. All in good time I suppose. The main goal is to install the under car exhaust with electric cutouts and the above listed mods this winter. The nice thing about this conversion is that I will be able to convert back to an S/C version in a afternoon if I so desire. But I must admit, I am looking forward to being able to carry on a simi-normal conversation or not need ear plugs during a long cruse; and yet still be able to set off car alarms via the flip of a switch if I so desire!
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I'm surprised it's even 10:1. Figured it would be closer to 35:1. Glad the trend is starting to shift though... Even if only a little bit.
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I'm surprised it's even 10:1. Figured it would be closer to 35:1. Glad the trend is starting to shift though... Even if only a little bit.
Keep in mind though, if you are considering a Cobra replica as an investment, forget it.....




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The nice thing about a street car (which I built) is that when/if it's sold its pretty easy to convert to the (same-ol-same-ol ) SC look. I have the roll bar under a bench and sidepipes and scoop can be purchased for a few hundred bucks. Just need to cut some holes and screw on a scoop.

My philosophy was build what I wanted and don't worry too much about re-sale.
My Philosophy as well build exactly what you want as with any toy project and enjoy it all you can. Our car is an SC/AC combo with as much originality look as possible. Roll bar, scoop, undercar exhaust, all the right stuff and done right.
It has to be all about you no matter what others have to say and there is never a lack of that. These cars are worth what someone is willing to pay, the better the car is done the more attention to detail will net you the most coin.
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