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Old 01-02-2015, 01:35 PM
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Just curious Evan...could you elaborate? No criticism is expressed or implied.
Sure. Early cars had different suspension parts that were historically accurate and correct, the frames were more accurate to original, they had Girling brakes. They even have the dimples on the head light trim rings. They had leather seats and the correct wool carpeting (now an option). As to the specifics of the differences you would have to get that from Bill Andrews at HRE but suffice it to say over the years there were changes that deviated from original design.

Most important to me, however, is the fact that my car and the early cars were all built at a time when Carroll was very involved in operations of his company and he was there frequently. My car and all the early cars were at SAI when Carroll was there walking the floor and very involved in his company and making his cars available to the public once again.

My car was even signed by him with my CSX#. This will be a coveted factor in years to come.

To me these factors mean something.
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It actually doesn't matter to me other than curiosity and making sure I am insured properly. I am perfectly fine with what I have. It's paid for and it's not going anywhere!
Yes, it is nice when its all paid for and its yours. Agreed!
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The bubble may not be the car necessarily, but the company itself. I personally would like to see CSBI healthier fiscally.
The realization of anticipated global demand is going to be very important to Shelby Inc. Going forward this campaign needs to be successful.
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Evan, as I said imo, time will tell. Let's see how the 50th anniversary 427 does, it being the most popular cobra that should be a good indicator of where the market is headed in this niche hobby. Not apples and oranges, more like Macintosh versus Red delicious. These are sports cars and all have a rich history in racing - just pick the years you want to brag about. Anyone with $260K to burn on a cobra will also be looking at other vehicles in that price range and performance category, to think otherwise would be naive. We've already seen it here with new-comer Q&A on less costly replicas and who decide in favor of a viper or vette.
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Evan, as I said imo, time will tell. Let's see how the 50th anniversary 427 does, it being the most popular cobra that should be a good indicator of where the market is headed in this niche hobby. Not apples and oranges, more like Macintosh versus Red delicious. These are sports cars and all have a rich history in racing - just pick the years you want to brag about. Anyone with $260K to burn on a cobra will also be looking at other vehicles in that price range and performance category, to think otherwise would be naive. We've already seen it here with new-comer Q&A on less costly replicas and who decide in favor of a viper or vette.
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Regardless of how you describe the difference, apples/oranges or McIntosh/Red Delicious (I prefer Granny Smiths myself ) their differences are substantial. Slick, modern and sophisticated vs. primitive hammer and anvil. You almost have to have grudge against yourself to opt for a Cobra compared to the others based on it's brashness, rudeness and lack of comfort and lack of safety etc...but for guys that truly love Cobras they wouldn't have it any other way. Perhaps its a sickness. They are a rare breed and few in number. the Cobra is a car you get personal with in that it requires constant codling and tinkering and attention. You get your hands dirty on it and sometimes you even leave skin and blood on it with bruised knuckles. It becomes a part of you and you even get to know it and understand it. Try that with the others.

I have tossed around the idea of selling my Shelby a number of times to buy a GT3RS or another FGT but I just can't bring myself to let it go. Why? I just love Cobras, their performance, their timeless shape, lack of sophistication, their nasty demeanor and their history and back story. Plus CSX 4206 is part of me and has been part of my life for nearly 15 years now. There is a lot of me in that Cobra.

Shelby and the Cobra has a lock on probably the most famous of all American automotive racing success stories and part of American pride for me. Its an American automotive legend and icon and always will be.

For the guys like me and for those who have the money they will always be willing to pony up for a Shelby. Granted they are far and few between but they are out there and will always be willing to pay for the right car.
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Default 50th Anniversary Sold Out in 48 Hours?

Well, this is interesting! All 50th Anniversary cars sold within 48 Hours? Really?..Really?

LAS VEGAS: 50th Anniversary Edition Big Block Shelby Cobra Sells out within 48 Hours of Unveil | Business Press Releases | Fort Mill Times
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Hey Bernica, there's a bridge nearby, would you like to buy it?

Of course, I have multiple buyers lined up and they've all promised via written agreement to buy the bridge, but I'll give you first dibs.
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Hey Bernica, there's a bridge nearby, would you like to buy it?

Of course, I have multiple buyers lined up and they've all promised via written agreement to buy the bridge, but I'll give you first dibs.
Hey Rodknock,
Do you think I seriously believed that press release?
Let's see...50 cars in 48 hours. That's over one car per hour!
I guess we all missed the boat!
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Do you think I seriously believed that press release?
Nope, your BS detector is probably as strong as mine.
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I believe you will find that all 50 cars were bought by a small handful of Shelby dealers, not by customers. You will see those cars for sale at Denbeste and Planet Cobra and the others over the next year with the expected price mark up.

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I believe you will find that all 50 cars were bought by a small handful of Shelby dealers, not by customers. You will see those cars for sale at Denbeste and Planet Cobra and the others over the next year with the expected price mark up.

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I personally don't doubt it a bit. I'm assuming that's the method to "selling out." But I'm sure those sales agreements say something like "we'll promise to buy 10 cars, unless of course, we don't."
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Wink that's great news!

Kirkham will be a busy shop for years
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They didn't say what the split between aluminum vs. fiberglass was.
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$60,000 extra for the aluminum body. Interesting.
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I believe you will find that all 50 cars were bought by a small handful of Shelby dealers, not by customers. You will see those cars for sale at Denbeste and Planet Cobra and the others over the next year with the expected price mark up.

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I may be way off base, but here's what I'm thinking...

1) Dealers told SAI that if SAI sells them direct and cuts them out, then said dealer won't support the car or warranty.
2) Then SAI tells the dealers, "Fine, then book the cars so then we can call them sold."
3) Then there a a bunch of rollers that someone (maybe even SAI) is looking to sell quick and be paid for if /when done!

Like I said, I may be way off base and don't claim to know the inside workings..
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Kirkham will be a busy shop for years
Yes...we are swamped. As usual.

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Well, this is interesting! All 50th Anniversary cars sold within 48 Hours? Really?..Really?

LAS VEGAS: 50th Anniversary Edition Big Block Shelby Cobra Sells out within 48 Hours of Unveil | Business Press Releases | Fort Mill Times
I really don't believe Joe Conway and Keith Belair would do a bogus press release. They have too much integrity. I can confirm (from our point of view) yes, they really did sell out in 48 hours. I'm looking for new equipment.

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I really don't believe Joe Conway and Keith Belair would do a bogus press release. They have too much integrity. I can confirm (from our point of view) yes, they really did sell out in 48 hours. I'm looking for new equipment.

David
Based on the previous 50th runs taking almost two years to get all delivered I'd be willing to bet this time the alloy cars of the 50 are delivered before the glass ones.

Enjoy

I might be in line if the gt gets sold
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The last time I was in Las Vegas, [2013] I spoke with Tom Logan. He said that Denbeste [who owns his shop] had purchased forty-one of the fifty 50th Anniversary 289 cars sold at Barrett-Jackson. Tom had 38 of those rollers at his shop to install the drive train.

That only left nine 289 cars to be sold to the other Shelby dealers. I doubt they had to twist any arms.

I can only guess that there is a similar story going on with the current 50th Anniversary 427 cars.

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They did sell out in 2 days..... been banging my head on the wall. Called 2 days after and I got sorry they were all sold out in the morning. Still looking for someone that has the order so I can pay a premium and get it. Anyone of those on the forums?
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