Anybody lining up for the new Shelby Cobra?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

There are those who are purists and want it the way "it was". After all when you want to duplicate one of the most iconic cars of all time it is only truly duplicated when the original receipe' is followed in all respects which receipe is set in stone and long ego established. You can't improve the heart and soul of what a Cobra is by deviating from what it was. You may change it and improve it's handling, it's power, its comfort and whatever else you want to your liking but then it moves away from center as to what it is supposed to be historically which is the "way it was" which is what a Cobra is. A "Cobra" has a character based on its original design and performce. That character is purist when the receipe is followed without deviation. You can change things but that changes character to your liking but dilutes the pure character of a "Cobra".

Kapesh?

Nope, no Kapesh. The "purity" argument is nonsense to me, because you don't own a 1960's original CSX2000 or 3000. The rest are replicas of the original. And the "purist" who tries to replicate the original with his or her Kirkham, Shelby, ERA, etc. is just exercising their brain cells to stave off dementia.

IMO, there is no reason not to use better suspension, brakes, Tremecs, engines, hose clamps, gauges, wiring, one trunk battery, etc., but admittedly, there are "purists" out there, but to me, that's the "greater fool theory."

Purity? On a CSX4000? Stop, you're killing me.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Nope, no Kapesh. The "purity" argument is nonsense to me, because you don't own a 1960's original CSX2000 or 3000. The rest are replicas of the original. And the "purist" who tries to replicate the original with his or her Kirkham, Shelby, ERA, etc. is just exercising their brain cells to stave off dementia.

IMO, there is no reason not to use better suspension, brakes, Tremecs, engines, hose clamps, gauges, wiring, one trunk battery, etc., but admittedly, there are "purists" out there, but to me, that's the "greater fool theory."

Purity? On a CSX4000? Stop, you're killing me.

Yes, we all know your view on the "replica" issue. Your view conflicts with SAACs and the SAAC World Registry of Cobras &GT40s which is the authoritative position that I and many agree with.

Aside from Whether it's a Cobra or a replica of one...

When you want to recreate something "as it was" physically the closer you stay to original specification the "purer" it is to being pure from a duplication standpoint and will behave and have the charter of what it is supposed to be duplicating.

There are some ingredients you can improve like materials without affecting aesthetics or dimensions. Some do improve performance. Some take you farther away from being exact to original spec than others. How far away from center do you want to be?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Your view conflicts with SAACs and the SAAC World Registry of Cobras &GT40s which is the authoritative position that I and many agree with.

Aside from Whether it's a Cobra or a replica of one...

When you want to recreate something "as it was" physically the closer you stay to original specification the "purer" it is to being pure from a duplication standpoint and will behave and have the charter of what it is supposed to be duplicating.

There are some ingredients you can improve like materials without affecting aesthetics or dimensions. Some do improve performance. Some take you farther away from being exact to original spec than others. How far away from center do you want to be?

My position doesn't conflict with SAAC. Whether they're called component, recreation, continuation, true replica, etc., that's fine with me. And we members all know that the Shelby continuations and Kirkhams were included to sell more memberships and books and also so they wouldn't morph into an original 1960's Cobra.

As for purity of original spec, that makes sense for a restoration of an original 1960's Cobra. Cobras built in the 2000's are replicas and "original spec" is superfluous. An exercise somewhat like a puzzle or Sudoko, to keep one's mind engaged and brain cells from dying off. Using the correct hose clamp, dual versus single batteries, Girling versus Wilwood brakes, etc. doesn't add or subtract from a replica's character or center, because the difference(s) are really just inside one's mind.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

My position doesn't conflict with SAAC. Whether they're called component, recreation, continuation, true replica, etc., that's fine with me. And we members all know that the Shelby continuations and Kirkhams were included to sell more memberships and books and also so they wouldn't morph into an original 1960's Cobra.

As for purity of original spec, that makes sense for a restoration of an original 1960's Cobra. Cobras built in the 2000's are replicas and "original spec" is superfluous. An exercise somewhat like a puzzle or Sudoko, to keep one's mind engaged and brain cells from dying off. Using the correct hose clamp, dual versus single batteries, Girling versus Wilwood brakes, etc. doesn't add or subtract from a replica's character or center, because the difference(s) are really just inside one's mind.

Oh, good news then. Your position doesn't conflict with SAAC's? Then you agree SAAC is correct putting aside their motive.

Whew!

That was easy.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Oh, good news then. Your position doesn't conflict with SAAC's? Then you agree SAAC is correct putting aside their motive.

Whew!

That was easy.

That's certainly AN interpretation of what I wrote, but I'd suggest that you "re-center" your Cobra, keep making it more "pure" because dementia seems to be seeping in for you.

[REAL 1]

So if that is AN interpretation of what you said then drop the other shoe and tell us what the correct interpretation of what you said is. Why rely on people with dementia to interpret what you said?

As far as my Cobra is concerned it is as pure as it can get short of being an original Yep. Pretty sure about that.

[4pipes]

You two love bugs should probably get a private room!

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

... As far as my Cobra is concerned it is as pure as it can get short of being an original Yep. Pretty sure about that.

Really, so you meet these specs?

block material Cast Iron
compression 11.5:1
power 305.7 kw / 409.9 bhp @ 5600 rpm
torque 626.39 nm / 462.0 ft lbs @ 2800 rpm
front tires 185x15 Goodyear Blue Dot
rear tires 195x15 Goodyear Blue Dot
front brakes Girling Discs
rear brakes Girling Discs
f suspension Unequal Wishbones w/Coil Spring over Dampers
r suspension Unequal Wishbones w/Coil Spring over Dampers
transmission 4-Speed Top-Loader Manual
gear ratios 2.20:1, 1.66:1, 1.31:1, 1.00:1
final drive 3.54:1
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[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

As far as my Cobra is concerned it is as pure as it can get short of being an original Yep. Pretty sure about that.

Scary as it may sound to some of you who know my history with "REAL 1", I agree 100% with the above statement.



Bill S.