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RodKnock 05-22-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1349524)
Rod: Why do you keep referring to these new Shelby's as Resurrection Cobras? Is that what they are calling them?

I thought they are calling them "Completion" or "Competition" Cobras?

The 3000 series, whether, the original 1960's 3000 series, the 1990's Completion Series or this new 2015 "Competition Series", the darn things keep coming back to life or being resurrected.

Just humor. All in good fun. :)

RodKnock 05-22-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1349522)
I have literally seen a FAM badged car all wrapped in plastic in a shop. The owner couldn't find a buyer for it. It was still a roller. Looked just like any other Cobra roller but with the "special" badging added to it. Owner was convinced that it was worth a fortune. No buyers.

Badges are always very important.

No matter what "Gold Hat" (the Mexican bandit character in the Treasure of the Sierra Madre) had to say.

fordracing65 05-22-2015 11:38 AM

Would you rather have one by Drew or one by Kirkham, add that to the story...**)

mrmustang 05-22-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1349509)

Actually he is a very good moderator IMHO.

Excuse me, you have something brown on your nose :LOL:

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1349520)

Anyway, what the heck does he know. He buys and sells Mustangs, Cobras, Shelbys, and Ford V8 powered Miatas


Fixed it for you :p

Bill S.

PS: Who even wears watches any more, except to show off their large wrists, or bad taste in watches ;)

Bernica 05-22-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1349528)
Would you rather have one by Drew or one by Kirkham, add that to the story...**)

How about something that is certified as engineered and built directly by Shelby American in their own shop like the old days? Just thinking that if this is such an important car they would have brought everyone to their place and not farmed it all out.
Where is Phil Remington when we need him? (RIP)

RodKnock 05-22-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang (Post 1349530)
PS: Who even wears watches any more, except to show off their large wrists, or bad taste in watches ;)

I guess some men like wearing jewelry. You know, to explore their feminine side. :LOL:

fordracing65 05-22-2015 12:07 PM

This sight is true die hard Cobra guys, all makes, and I have not heard one on here, that even if they have the money would want one of these cars...

RodKnock 05-22-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1349535)
This sight is true die hard Cobra guys, all makes, and I have not heard one on here, that even if they have the money would want one of these cars...

Well, you gotta admit that there aren't that many people in this world with $500,000 to spend on a Cobra replica that would want to hang out with a bunch of losers like us. :LOL:

fordracing65 05-22-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rodknock (Post 1349537)
well, you gotta admit that there aren't that many people in this world with $500,000 to spend on a cobra replica that would want to hang out with a bunch of losers like us. :lol:

king loser here, and proud...

Bernica 05-22-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fordracing65 (Post 1349535)
This sight is true die hard Cobra guys, all makes, and I have not heard one on here, that even if they have the money would want one of these cars...

Nope. I suspect the majority of them will be on container ships to places unknown!

Don't get me wrong. I love the car, the heritage and the the quality...and everything they are trying to accomplish. Just seems to me like they went the wrong way.

Just my 2 cents...

fordracing65 05-22-2015 12:22 PM

[quote=Bernica;1349539]Nope. I suspect the majority of them will be on container ships to places unknown!

Don't get me wrong. I love the car, the heritage and the the quality...and everything they are trying to accomplish. Just seems to me like they went the wrong way.

Just my 2 cents...[/QUO

I think we all love the car for what they are, its the story that has everyone here**):JEKYLHYDE:LOL:

Trevor Legate 05-22-2015 01:27 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can build seriously expensive replicas of circa 40+ cars that never existed? That takes smoke and a lot of mirrors.

One day Ferrari will catch on and build replicas of the other 34 1964 GTOs that they didn't get around to building as nobody bothered to order them. But had they had the orders - they would have made them. So best make 'em now, it's never too late (obviously). Around $20million a pop should do the trick......

Bernica 05-22-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1349543)
I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can build seriously expensive replicas of circa 40+ cars that never existed? That takes smoke and a lot of mirrors.

One day Ferrari will catch on and build replicas of the other 34 1964 GTOs that they didn't get around to building as nobody bothered to order them. But had they had the orders - they would have made them. So best make 'em now, it's never too late (obviously). Around $20million a pop should do the trick......

But I suspect they would build them in their own shop. To me, that makes a difference!

RodKnock 05-22-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1349543)
Around $20million a pop should do the trick......

Ferrari has never been about the money, to me anyway. They've always limited their production to protect the brand's reputation. Ferrari had previously capped production at 7,000 cars per year, but recently has increased the production cap to 10,000.

$20 Million a pop? That would be a "bargain."

Shelby is about survival at this point. They've got to figure out something to do with a 50-year old car, so they try to keep creating buzz and excitement, by exploiting their brand and customers.

Let's see there's the Terlingua Edition, Bill Elliott Edition, 40th and 50th Anniversary Editions, FAM Edition, Completion Series Edition, Competiton Series Edition, and next year it's the Gumball Rally Edition.

DAVID GAGNARD 05-22-2015 02:46 PM

For a cool 1/2 million bucks you get a car that CAN NOT EVER be legally licensed and/or driven on any public road IN ALL 50 STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dats expensive art!!!!!!:LOL::LOL:

david

twobjshelbys 05-22-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD (Post 1349553)
For a cool 1/2 million bucks you get a car that CAN NOT EVER be legally licensed and/or driven on any public road IN ALL 50 STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dats expensive art!!!!!!:LOL::LOL:

david

Editing the original to try to make it clearer:

It turns out that is likely not true. It is true 100% in CA . The MSO contains no restrictions. When I asked about it it was more of a free form discussion than an answer, but the best summary I can give is that CA was an absolute NO but there was no claim of an absolute YES in other places.

So to follow the progressions, other jurisdictions may not have the restriction that CA places on the power train/vehicle assembly. Others besides CA do as well. However, said vehicle will also likely never be licensable in those places that do place restrictions. That was as far as I went since I could sense it was sensitive topic. I'll wager with pretty high odds that vehicles will find their way on the streets in some places. I can pretty much guess at places I wouldn't even try and I can also guess a few places where you might have a shot. But if you want a guarantee, buy a muffler.

rodneym 05-22-2015 03:01 PM

I don't mean to throw us off course but how are real comp cars registered in CA?

Bernica 05-22-2015 03:05 PM

I would look to the likes of Lynn Park for that answer, if there is one.

RodKnock 05-22-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1349554)
It turns out that is likely not true. It is true 100% in CA. Other jurisdictions may not have the restriction that CA places on the power train/vehicle assembly. Others besides CA do as well. However, said vehicle will also likely never be licensable in those places that do place restrictions. That was as far as we could go. There are NO stated restrictions on the MSO. I'll wager with pretty high odds that vehicles will find their way on the streets.

Then somehow, they'll have to navigate around the Federal laws regarding the sales of completed cars that do not meet 2015 emission and safety standards. I can't wait to see that and I sure hope the first owner to register his or her Resurrection Cobra will it post it here.

Of course, we're just speculating. The press release states they cannot be registered for street use. Let's see what happens. I'm sure the authorities will be watching closely.

twobjshelbys 05-22-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1349559)
Then somehow, they'll have to navigate around the Federal laws regarding the sales of completed cars that do not meet 2015 emission and safety standards. I can't wait to see that and I sure hope the first owner to register his or her Resurrection Cobra will it post it here.

Of course, we're just speculating. The press release states they cannot be registered for street use. Let's see what happens. I'm sure the authorities will be watching closely.

Note I edited my original post after you were probably composing your quoted reply to try to clarify what I was saying.

You betcha places are watching. I'll guarantee you CA will have a BLACKLIST.


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