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09-19-2015, 12:19 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #185, Shelby Alloy 482; sold
Posts: 1,190
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Evan, does your wheat have any Kirkham DNA?
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09-19-2015, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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Kirkam's are not included in my definition of chaff.
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09-20-2015, 11:43 AM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4pipes
Evan, does your wheat have any Kirkham DNA?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Kirkam's are not included in my definition of chaff.
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Is that because you are driving one with a CSX number plate attached to it 
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09-20-2015, 12:49 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
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This thread just keeps grinding on!
I for one am grateful for what I have and never try to misrepresent it. It is what it is and doesn't try to be anything else...a CSX4000 glass car.
But I have heard my share of misconceptions. I always just listen and be polite.
I have been told the following at a few events:
That's really an AC. (no, it's not)
That's a Mustang with a Kit body (no, it's not)
The real originals were made of steel before aluminum (no, they weren't)
It's not a slab-side, so it's a kit car (no, not true)
You don't have leaf springs, so it's not real (well...)
The 427's were a big failure and took Shelby down (ok, you go with that)
They didn't have disc brakes back then (well, yes they did)
If it was real, it would have a gas cap in the center (OK, thanks)
If it was real, it would be in light blue or red (OK, thanks)
The list goes on and it's usually someone trying to show his wife or girlfriend how much they know about cars, so I just let them run.
The comments I get from folks like Gary Patterson (SAI) or Lance Stander (SPF) carry much more weight to me. 
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09-20-2015, 01:46 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Syracuse,
Ny
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2660, FE-406
Posts: 372
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When in doubt, the good old free market tells you everything you need to know. There were a few real Cobras made in the 60's worth serious money and then there are countless versions of "not". I don't care if it' made from glass, carbon, alloy or tarpaper or whose bull**** rationalization of " after the fact, it's in the book" yada yada yada. You have a " not". If it was otherwise it would be valued much closer the original cars, call it a not plus or double plus.
There are nots, not minus', not plus' . And they will always be something other than what we may secretly wish them to be.
I have what I have, because, more than anything else, it captures the embodyment of what these cars were, now operationally better, all at a fair price, with a small dose of principle preservation( maybe) and they're kind of fun.
You want 4 wheel penis envy, buy a ferrari becauce unless you got a real bragging rights 1965 million dollar example, we're all, ALL, me included, in the somewhat shallow end of the pool here folks.
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Last edited by Tim7139; 09-20-2015 at 03:09 PM..
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09-20-2015, 02:18 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,617
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I break owners down into these three categories:
1. The "Haves". They own original 60's era cobras. Nuff said!
2. The "Wannabes". They couldn't afford an original so they bought some kind of replica and try to pass it off as something it isn't and never will be. You are in this category if you are continually trying to convince others that yours is better than theirs for whatever reason.
3. The "Rest of Us". Who could give a rats ass who built your car or when it was made. We appreciate them all. But we REALLY appreciate an original.
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09-20-2015, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
I break owners down into these three categories:
1. The "Haves". They own original 60's era cobras. Nuff said!
2. The "Wannabes". They couldn't afford an original so they bought some kind of replica and try to pass it off as something it isn't and never will be. You are in this category if you are continually trying to convince others that yours is better than theirs for whatever reason.
3. The "Rest of Us". Who could give a rats ass who built your car or when it was made. We appreciate them all. But we REALLY appreciate an original.
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See this is another shining example. That's your breakdown not mine. By your logic my 2012 Boss 302 LS is not a real Boss 302 since it wasn't made in the 60's. Oh, and my 2005 Ford GT is not a real Ford GT since it wasn't made in the 60's (please note the GT40 was always officially known as the Ford GT not its popularly known reference as the GT40).
Anyway, here's my breakdown.
1. The "Haves". Owners of original Shelby Cobras and Continuation Shelby Cobras.
2. Those that own copies of Shelby Cobras.
3. ...actually I don't have a #3.
Cheers,

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09-20-2015, 02:33 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
NV
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,634
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
This thread just keeps grinding on!
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Don't worry, this one will soon die out and another one will rise like the Phoenix bird from the ashes to take its place.
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09-20-2015, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Is that because you are driving one with a CSX number plate attached to it 
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Correcto...and the Originals are ACs with a Shelby plate attached to it. 
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