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Old 09-21-2015, 09:18 AM
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I don't need to do anything about it. Tell us what the issue was that was being decided in that opinion and the holding?

Your grasp of jurisprudence is about as complete as your car. Normally I would help out on this issue but with you I'll just keep letting you publicly display you ignorance. it's just too much fun.

Furthermore where did that particular opinion state Continuation Shelby Cobras were not real Shelby Cobras? Please point out where the court ruled on that issue or even said it in passing? Come put that powdered wig back on and edumacate us.
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... Furthermore where did that particular opinion state Continuation Shelby Cobras were not real Shelby Cobras? ...
You're missing the point as I knew you would, I'll dumb it down for you then, that ruling says -

Continuations have no acquired distinctiveness from all the other replicas, nor does it have acquired distinctiveness to be considered part of the original cobras of the 60's.

Therefore, BDR = ERA = Continuation = SPF = FFR = EM = Insert Replica Mfg Here = Kit Car

... you lose
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You're missing the point as I knew you would, I'll dumb it down for you then, that ruling says -

Continuations have no acquired distinctiveness from all the other replicas, nor does it have acquired distinctiveness to be considered part of the original cobras of the 60's.

Therefore, BDR = ERA = Continuation = SPF = FFR = EM = Insert Replica Mfg Here = Kit Car

... you lose
You can bet your last shekel that Not-Real1 is preparing his rebuttal to this one (as we wait with baited breath) and it will include at least one character assault and probably a dozen misrepresentations.
You're shaking the very foundation that supports him.

Gotta get another bag of popcorn. It's going to get good.
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You can bet your last shekel that Not-Real1 is preparing his rebuttal to this one (as we wait with baited breath) and it will include at least one character assault and probably a dozen misrepresentations.
You're shaking the very foundation that supports him.

Gotta get another bag of popcorn. It's going to get good.
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You can bet your last shekel that Not-Real1 is preparing his rebuttal to this one (as we wait with baited breath) and it will include at least one character assault and probably a dozen misrepresentations.
You're shaking the very foundation that supports him.
There, now that didn't take long did it?
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There, now that didn't take long did it?
Your even quoting yourself now????

So far not one of you has made enough inroads to shake a bowl of jelly more less the foundation of my position but as long as you all think so I guess that's all that matters.

Facts, law and Registry my friend. Facts, law and Registry.
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You're missing the point as I knew you would, I'll dumb it down for you then, that ruling says -

Continuations have no acquired distinctiveness from all the other replicas, nor does it have acquired distinctiveness to be considered part of the original cobras of the 60's.

Therefore, BDR = ERA = Continuation = SPF = FFR = EM = Insert Replica Mfg Here = Kit Car

... you lose
Wow! You actually got sorta close.... but no cigar. I'm impressed though that you even got that close.

The essence of the ruling was that Cobras/Continuation Cobras or Shelby replicas of the original series have lost their distinctiveness in body shape which was the issue in that decision dealing with the shape/trade dress....

Thus we have the following noted by the court:

quite another to assert that purchasers and potential
purchasers view Cobra continuations or replicas, sold
primarily as kits, which employ the Cobra 427 S/C Design as
coming from a single source
.....


Shelby lost his effort to stop other companies from making copies of the Cobra shape which by necessity included the original shape. The issue was shape/trade dress protection which required establishment of "acquired distinctiveness" as to the shape. Since ol' Shel sat on his ass for 30 years while companies prodigiously popped out fakes of his Shelby Cobra it was now too late to complain that the shape belonged to him.

Ergo, we have the following statement by the court....

The fact that Cobra replicas,
sold primarily as kits, which employ the 427 S/C Design,
have been sold by numerous third parties for more than
three decades, including between 2002 and 2009, precludes
us from drawing that conclusion. Accordingly, we find
applicant’s evidence based on media coverage of Mr. Shelby
and all of the Cobras not probative of the issue of
acquired distinctiveness
s."

That's the story.

In fact, the courts protected the trade mark aspect of Shelby's claim and it is was ruled that the only company that can legally call or label their product a Cobra or a Shelby Cobra is Shelby American.

Uh oh. What now!
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