Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1364099)

Yes, you needed that one to try and extricate yourself from having stepped in it. :LOL:

As always you read into things way to much and see what you want to see.

To bad you didn't read the previous thread on the issue or if you did didn't absorb what was being said. Larry and I actually wound up agreeing. I understood clearly what he was saying above you obviously did not. Here, follow along....AC did make some changes in the Ace chassis and body design prior to Shelby arriving on the scene. The basic car was there in recognizable basic "Cobra" form and shape at the very beginning. Yes, Alan Turner was responsible for that. He was the in house engineer. Like any manufacturer AC was trying to improve it's chassis each year for its customer base. However, it wasn't a Cobra yet. That took a lot of feed back from testing and development at SAI. AC made a lot of changes as directed and requested by SAI to make the little AC Ace (which previously only looked like a "Cobra") into a "Cobra" chassis and some further body revisions that was manufactured by AC with these changes for the "Cobra".

As to AC competing with a car at Le Mans, tell me was that a pre-Shelby developed chassis or post? Please let us know when you find the answer.

As to clearing the dance floor for me. You should. You obviously derive most of your info from internet articles and rely on them way too much instead of published treatises and books written by knowledgeable and respected authors like Legate, etc.... This reflects in the lack of depth of your knowledge... but stick around, despite stepping on your own toes often you will eventually learn something. Example, you should copy the above paragraph for future reference.

As to Tony's sig, Tony hasn't had a Continuation Cobra for a number of years and most vets here know that. Only a newbie would jump on it like you.

BTW still waiting for the pics of that chassis sitting on the floor. Does it even replicate the Tojeiro design? Post up!!!

InFletcher: Yeah, ain't that a scream. :LOL:

XacK: You believed that? Stop being so gullible son. :LOL: However, if hypothetically Rolex started to sell their watches in Kit form and you bought one ...would it be a REAL rolex? ;) Careful how you answer. :LOL:

Thor: I'm fascinated. How did you arrive at the 1/3 formulation? :JEKYLHYDE :LOL:

ASO544: I think glass chassis CSX cars are manufactured in South Africa. I'm not sure about HST anymore. Stopped following it.
Aluminum Shelbys are another story.

Originally Posted by mdross1 (Post 1364269)

... I'm sure most would not care to hear about my authentic antique 2 cylinder John Deere tractors.

Originally Posted by trularin (Post 1364297)

So this thread seems to have gone into the "everything is a replica".
Tru

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1364206)

Yea, agree but I like some of the simpler models. Really want to get a square or rectangular face model.

Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1364300)

Yes, everything is replica, except for the Cobras built in the 1960's. That's been my belief since Day 1.

Shelby Cobras built in 1995 and thereafter are "genuine" or "true" replicas, but they're the only ones that can legally be called Shelby Cobras.

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1364283)

I'm sure history will repeat itself, it always does. In the meantime, several years ago I was on the hunt for a TAG Heuer Kirium Professional 200M with a beige face (not white). I know they made it ('70s era) because I saw one. Looked hi and lo but never found one.

TimeZone : Sales Corner » FS: TAG Heuer Kirium Professional 200M White Face

Edit: Beige face with that specific hour hand shape.

Originally Posted by Thor maine (Post 1364292)

Real-1, 1/3 for all to ponder. If Harley-Davidson went out of business and forty years later a member of the Davidson family started a motorcycle company and made a almost exact copy of a bike that was made forty years ago, would you say that motorcycle is a authentic, real, genuine Harley Davidson??? Or would you say that it was 1/2 a authentic, real, genuine Harley Davidson???

Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 1364307)

Wow...I don't think I've ever seen such a thing. Good looking series TAG did there. I have a 4000 from that time period...smaller than the diver model you're referencing but a nice chrono...my wife wears it now since wimmins watches have gotten bigger as well (she likes looking cool with a chrono at the Monterey Historics...likes to time me on how long I'm in the bathroom).

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1364309)

Recommendations as to where to buy a Ulysis Nardin in the Carribean?

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1364306)

... It's simple to me. It's a genuine Shelby Cobra ...

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1364306)

The World Registry explains it very clearly and logically. Your "position" is close but not entirely consistent with the Registry.

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1363940)

The only revision I would like to see is "... limit the SAAC registry to cars from the 60's that were actually built then ..."

Figuring out new ways to partition the various "classes" and including them is just another update to what already exists, still makes the registry a fat catch-all Ford/replica car mag.

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1364317)

The problem is the use of the word "genuine" unless immediately followed by replica as it implies originality just like "real" or "REAL 1".
Synonyms (genuine): authentic, real, actual, original, bona fide, true, veritable; attested, undisputed; the real McCoy, honest-to-goodness, honest-to-God, the real thing etc.

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1364312)

As you get older that time is going to get longer and more frequent :)
Tag also did the 1500 and 2000 series which are very similar, I think what I saw was a very specific year/model/size that had that beige face.