Interesting Article from Hemmings Buyer Guide regarding Current Production Cobras

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Tony, the Shelby and Kirkham alloy models are the premier replicas in the market, except for someone like Mr. McCluskey who might build one from scratch or something.

People will pay a premium for the CSX plaque. No doubt about it. That's obvious. We can debate the amount of the premium all day, at least in the secondary market, but that's not important.

What is important, to me, is that the words "genuine", "real", or "authentic" are NOT used in connection with the anything other than the 998. Simple as that for me. And the SAAC website statement has removed it and the Registry will be next.

The 2008 SAAC statement was superceded by the Registry.

The current SAAC statement does not change a thing about their prior statement, does not retract their position, correct it or modify it in any way. That is your misplaced and misguided "interpretation". You are desperate to see what you want to see. If SAAC wanted to "correct", change or modify or retract what they said and their position they could have clearly and emphatically done so. They have not.

If fact if you go to the SAAC forums today there is a separate forum category for "replicas and Tributes". CSX Cobras both original and Continuation have their own discussion forums separate from "replicas and tributes".

Sorry to break it to you.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

The 2008 SAAC statement was superceded by the Registry.

The current SAAC statement does not change a thing about their prior statement, does not retract their position, correct it or modify it in any way. That is your misplaced and misguided "interpretation". You are desperate to see what you want to see. If SAAC wanted to "correct", change or modify or retract what they said and their position they could have clearly and emphatically done so. They have not.

Sorry to break it to you.

All gone. SAAC's website has been updated and the word genuine or authentic as it relates to the Shelby replicas has been removed.

And it obviously changes, modifies and retracts their prior position. See Ned's prior comments. I could post them here again and again.

[cycleguy55]

RodKnock and REAL 1:

Having read FAR too many posts on the topic of real, original, genuine, replica, etc., it is painfully obvious neither of you is going to convince the other to accept your arguments, no matter how well reasoned and/or referenced.

I know it's a stretch, but is it possible the two of you could 'agree to disagree' and move on to other topics?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

RodKnock and REAL 1:

Having read FAR too many posts on the topic of real, original, genuine, replica, etc., it is painfully obvious neither of you is going to convince the other to accept your arguments, no matter how well reasoned and/or referenced.

I know it's a stretch, but is it possible the two of you could 'agree to disagree' and move on to other topics?

I'd say anything is possible, but I'm firm believer in the 998. And that those are the only Cobras that can be considered real, genuine and authentic. That's all. I think CSX alloy replicas are the top of the heap and Evan's 4206 is right there near the top. I'm not throwing any shade on the them whatsoever, just don't tread on the 998.

And for the folks that don't want to read the nonsense, and trust me, I know it's nonsense, just don't click on the thread. Jamo made it a sticky for a reason and this argument has probably been going on since before Evan and I got here and will continue to go on even after all replicas are removed from the next Registry.

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

RodKnock and REAL 1:

Having read FAR too many posts on the topic of real, original, genuine, replica, etc., it is painfully obvious neither of you is going to convince the other to accept your arguments, no matter how well reasoned and/or referenced.

.....?

I don't know. I've read many of the posts and I still think that neither side has made their position clear. I'd like to hear more discussion. Perhaps REAL1 and Rodknock can give us an overview of the threads and what has been discussed so far, then refresh us with their current statements on the topic and then have one minute for rebuttal.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Paul F

I don't know. I've read many of the posts and I still think that neither side has made their position clear. I'd like to hear more discussion. Perhaps REAL1 and Rodknock can give us an overview of the threads and what has been discussed so far, then refresh us with their current statements on the topic and then have one minute for rebuttal.

Yes, recapping the last 100 +/- pages of three threads, my position is as follows...

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, recapping the last 100 +/- pages of three threads, my position is as follows...

Evan, one minute rebuttal?

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

A true statement also, but it doesn't change the outcome - it merely makes a general statement a specific one.

But there in lies the rub... it DOES change the outcome - it gives clarity to a misleading statement, yes?

Originally Posted by Paul F

I don't know. I've read many of the posts and I still think that neither side has made their position clear. I'd like to hear more discussion. Perhaps REAL1 and Rodknock can give us an overview of the threads and what has been discussed so far, then refresh us with their current statements on the topic and then have one minute for rebuttal.

Haha. Gold! Paul you are one funny guy.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Paul F

I don't know. I've read many of the posts and I still think that neither side has made their position clear. I'd like to hear more discussion. Perhaps REAL1 and Rodknock can give us an overview of the threads and what has been discussed so far, then refresh us with their current statements on the topic and then have one minute for rebuttal.

Yeah sure. Read the 40th Edition of the World Registry of Cobras & GT40s. In fact, I can give page numbers for anyone that wants to learn and/or understand. PM me.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yeah sure. Read the 40th Edition of the World Registry of Cobras & GT40s. In fact, I can give page numbers for anyone that wants to learn and/or understand. PM me.

Well, they certainly won't learn how to count from you. You ought to "vet" your posts before hitting the send button. Ned, tried to correct you once, but I'll give it a try this time. You keep stating the 40th Edition, but....

it's the 4th Edition of the World Registry. You know, the one where "certain liberties were taken."

I can also give you page numbers too, where the true replica and Cobra-like references are. And you go look on the SAAC Website where you can click on "Component Cobra" to register your, er, uh, Component Cobra. Don't PM me, just ask here.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Well, they certainly won't learn how to count from you. You ought to "vet" your posts before hitting the send button. Ned, tried to correct you once, but I'll give it a try this time. You keep stating the 40th Edition, but....

it's the 4th Edition of the World Registry. You know, the one where "certain liberties were taken."

I can also give you page numbers too, where the true replica and Cobra-like references are. And you go look on the SAAC Website where you can click on "Component Cobra" to register your, er, uh, Component Cobra. Don't PM me, just ask here.

Ah, you do pay attention to what you want to pay attention to.

Yeah, Ned corrected me. Right. More like I corrected him and showed him the door on the issue. Please.

Yeah, I love that Registry with our so called "liberties" and all

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yeah sure. Read the 40th Edition of the World Registry of Cobras & GT40s. In fact, I can give page numbers for anyone that wants to learn and/or understand. PM me.

Rodknock, one minute rebuttal? Oh wait, you already gave yours.

[Joe's Garage]

Evan must disengage, members have been telling him to do that in one form or another for the last 12 years. Here's a very amusing poll and 2 page thread back in 2003. You would think after pissing into the wind, the blowback would have taught him something, but apparently not - enjoy!

Should CSX 4206 be an Icon for CSX owners.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Evan must disengage, members have been telling him to do that in one form or another for the last 12 years. Here's a very amusing poll and 2 page thread back in 2003. You would think after pissing into the wind, the blowback would have taught him something, but apparently not - enjoy!

Should CSX 4206 be an Icon for CSX owners.

You are commenting on something you weren't involved in 12 years ago? Again of course out of context. That thread was all tongue & cheek. Only a "creep" keeps citing things out of context.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Evan must disengage, members have been telling him to do that in one form or another for the last 12 years. Here's a very amusing poll and 2 page thread back in 2003. You would think after pissing into the wind, the blowback would have taught him something, but apparently not - enjoy!

Should CSX 4206 be an Icon for CSX owners.

It appears the miscreants have had many years of this to hone their skills, which reminds me of the expression: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t."

Time to move on.

[Joe's Garage]

Technically this isn't the "sticky thread", Evan created this one along with a 3rd when the oven got too hot for him here -

Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

The above thread is where this crap belongs, but Evan likes to cut & run when the going gets tough

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Technically this isn't the "sticky thread", Evan created this one along with a 3rd when the oven got too hot for him here -

Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

The above thread is where this crap belongs, but Evan likes to cut & run when the going gets tough

Ya, sorry, I didn't "vet" that one out.

[Joe's Garage]

Evan, you bought csx4206 as a Continuation Series csx4000 Cobra.

Why did you list your csx4206 Continuation as an ORIGINAL and not a CONTINUATION?

CSX 4206 for sale. No comments on this thread please!

[Jamo]

One more thread, Evan, and you're out.

Respond, and you're out.

PM me, and you're out.

Etc., and you're out.