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10-20-2015, 12:11 PM
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Tony, the Shelby and Kirkham alloy models are the premier replicas in the market, except for someone like Mr. McCluskey who might build one from scratch or something.
People will pay a premium for the CSX plaque. No doubt about it. That's obvious. We can debate the amount of the premium all day, at least in the secondary market, but that's not important.
What is important, to me, is that the words "genuine", "real", or "authentic" are NOT used in connection with the anything other than the 998. Simple as that for me. And the SAAC website statement has removed it and the Registry will be next.
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10-20-2015, 12:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Tony, the Shelby and Kirkham alloy models are the premier replicas in the market, except for someone like Mr. McCluskey who might build one from scratch or something.
People will pay a premium for the CSX plaque. No doubt about it. That's obvious. We can debate the amount of the premium all day, at least in the secondary market, but that's not important.
What is important, to me, is that the words "genuine", "real", or "authentic" are NOT used in connection with the anything other than the 998. Simple as that for me. And the SAAC website statement has removed it and the Registry will be next.
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Please diagram the following sentence:
I own a genuine Shelby Cobra
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10-20-2015, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
Please diagram the following sentence:
I own a genuine Shelby Cobra
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I own a genuine Shelby Cobra, if and only if, I own 1 of the 998.
How's that?
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10-20-2015, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I own a genuine Shelby Cobra, if and only if, I own 1 of the 998.
How's that?
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Thank God you cleared that up!!! So my Shelby Cobra is a fake of a Shelby Cobra.
Yes, it all makes perfect sense now. 
Ok. Got it.
Oey vey.
Read the Registry boys.
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10-20-2015, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
So my Shelby Cobra is a fake of a Shelby Cobra.
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You own a genuine Shelby Cobra replica. A copy of one of the original 998. Congratulations. Great car. And I love black-painted replicas. Maybe my favorite paint color for a Cobra or Cobra replica.
And yes, read the Registry, especially the page(s) where the Shelby Cobra replica is called a "true replica" and "Cobra-like."
Oh, and read Ned The Curator's statements, which are consistent with those two terms. 
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10-20-2015, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
Please diagram the following sentence:
I owned a genuine 2008? Shelby Cobra
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Hey there, fixed it for you 
Ps. It was a very nice car indeed. Different with the yellow wheels and all, but very nice none the less.
Pps: Joe - Why do you feel the need to be so rude?
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10-20-2015, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
Hey there, fixed it for you
Ps. It was a very nice car indeed. Different with the yellow wheels and all, but very nice none the less.
Pps: Joe - Why do you feel the need to be so rude? |
A true statement also, but it doesn't change the outcome - it merely makes a general statement a specific one.
I've since seen several other British Racing Green Cobras. BRG was on the official Shelby paint list. [The paint list used to be on Gessford Machine's site but I was looking for it recently and couldn't find it.] The green color they called out was exactly Jaguar's paint code, and in fact, HST used Jag sourced paint. The yellow/gold stripe color is some Mercedes color.
The original owner paid a pretty penny to get the wheels painted.
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10-20-2015, 12:19 PM
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Tony: Great post!!!
Yes, from now on to make friends here maybe I will follow that dialog and come clean with sobs and all. 
This "grab ass" phrase ...what is that anyway? Never heard that term. Obviously familiar to our new troll.
Still waiting for the "grab ass" expert to post pics of his, well whatever it is that lying on his floor.
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10-20-2015, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Tony: Great post!!!
Yes, from now on to make friends here maybe I will follow that dialog and come clean with sobs and all.
This "grab ass" phrase ...what is that anyway? Never heard that term. Obviously familiar to our new troll.
Still waiting for the "grab ass" expert to post pics of his, well whatever it is that lying on his floor. |
Speaking of phrases, where does "flotsam and jetsam" come from? I've never heard that one before.
"Grab-ass" is kinda like two dogs going round and round sniffing the other one's butt. Kinda like you and Tony here.
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10-20-2015, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Tony, the Shelby and Kirkham alloy models are the premier replicas in the market, except for someone like Mr. McCluskey who might build one from scratch or something.
People will pay a premium for the CSX plaque. No doubt about it. That's obvious. We can debate the amount of the premium all day, at least in the secondary market, but that's not important.
What is important, to me, is that the words "genuine", "real", or "authentic" are NOT used in connection with the anything other than the 998. Simple as that for me. And the SAAC website statement has removed it and the Registry will be next.
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The 2008 SAAC statement was superceded by the Registry.
The current SAAC statement does not change a thing about their prior statement, does not retract their position, correct it or modify it in any way. That is your misplaced and misguided "interpretation". You are desperate to see what you want to see. If SAAC wanted to "correct", change or modify or retract what they said and their position they could have clearly and emphatically done so. They have not.
If fact if you go to the SAAC forums today there is a separate forum category for "replicas and Tributes". CSX Cobras both original and Continuation have their own discussion forums separate from "replicas and tributes".
Sorry to break it to you.
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Last edited by REAL 1; 10-20-2015 at 12:26 PM..
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10-20-2015, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
The 2008 SAAC statement was superceded by the Registry.
The current SAAC statement does not change a thing about their prior statement, does not retract their position, correct it or modify it in any way. That is your misplaced and misguided "interpretation". You are desperate to see what you want to see. If SAAC wanted to "correct", change or modify or retract what they said and their position they could have clearly and emphatically done so. They have not.
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All gone. SAAC's website has been updated and the word genuine or authentic as it relates to the Shelby replicas has been removed.
And it obviously changes, modifies and retracts their prior position. See Ned's prior comments. I could post them here again and again.
Last edited by RodKnock; 10-20-2015 at 01:11 PM..
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