Continuation Cobras & SAAC

[Al G]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

That's the aluminum replica example, there is a similar comparison for the "glass" replicas.

SPF sells a glass roller for $X
Shelby sells a glass roller for $Y
But the Shelby roller uses a body built at the same factory as SPF and by the same workers under Shelby license. SPF has a "ladder chassis" with excellent torsional stiffness. Shelby comes with a round tube chassis probably not quite as stiff. The remaining "a la carte" add-ons are similar in quality and degree of replication to the original (wheels, gauges etc.), yet the SPF roller is cheaper than the Shelby roller.

Some of is put more value on the round tube chassis as it provides an experience closer to the original cars. Way back at the beginning of the other thread someone said the "best" car is the one that meets what the owner wants. A round tube chassis was best for me and many others.

The bodies are not the same. Both are fiberglass but the shapes are different. There are many details in the construction that make the cars different. But I understand details seem to be beyond your comprehension level.

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by Al G

Some of is put more value on the round tube chassis as it provides an experience closer to the original cars. Way back at the beginning of the other thread someone said the "best" car is the one that meets what the owner wants. A round tube chassis was best for me and many others.

The bodies are not the same. Both are fiberglass but the shapes are different. There are many details in the construction that make the cars different. But I understand details seem to be beyond your comprehension level.

yup !!!

[REAL 1]

Blue/Al: Take a look at page 30 of the Registry. You will find separate categories of original Cobras that are recognized as "REAL" Cobras despite the fact many have been partially or totally reconstructed with nothing more than a tag remaining.

A cogent argument exists that current production Cobras have more Shelby Cobra DNA than some partially reconstructed and especially completely reconstructed originals regardless of their CSX #. If a completely reconstructed 1960's is a real Shelby Cobra what we own is sure as hell a real Shelby Cobra. At least as far as the I'm concerned.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Al G

Some of is put more value on the round tube chassis as it provides an experience closer to the original cars. Way back at the beginning of the other thread someone said the "best" car is the one that meets what the owner wants. A round tube chassis was best for me and many others.

The bodies are not the same. Both are fiberglass but the shapes are different. There are many details in the construction that make the cars different. But I understand details seem to be beyond your comprehension level.

Fascinating, but irrelevant to the question asked - why we have these "Shelby is not worth it" types. RodKnock's post talks to the aluminum Shelbys, mine talks to the glass Shelbys. The differences you talk about are in the noise compared to cost. You don't have to agree with it nor would I expect you to as you have bought a CSX. But let's be honest, the "Shelby Plaque" is probably 95% of why you bought yours - and that's ok, we get it.

[Al G]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Fascinating, but irrelevant to the question asked - why we have these "Shelby is not worth it" types. RodKnock's post talks to the aluminum Shelbys, mine talks to the glass Shelbys. The differences you talk about are in the noise compared to cost. You don't have to agree with it nor would I expect you to as you have bought a CSX. But let's be honest, the "Shelby Plaque" is probably 95% of why you bought yours - and that's ok, we get it.

I don't even understand this post. However, since you seem to think you can read my mind figure out what I think of you. That will save me posting it and getting banned.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Fascinating, but irrelevant to the question asked - why we have these "Shelby is not worth it" types. RodKnock's post talks to the aluminum Shelbys, mine talks to the glass Shelbys. The differences you talk about are in the noise compared to cost. You don't have to agree with it nor would I expect you to as you have bought a CSX. But let's be honest, the "Shelby Plate" is probably 95% of why you bought yours.

Sorry sir, but I can't agree.
As a non-csx owner I don't see it your way.
They don't even look like same to a trained cobra eye.
Both are nice, but different. Kirkham v CSX however very hard to tell without getting under the skin, and sometimes even then

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Sorry sir, but I can't agree.
As a non-csx owner I don't see it your way.
They don't even look like same to a trained cobra eye.
Both are nice, but different. Kirkham v CSX however very hard to tell without getting under the skin, and sometimes even then

... and you agreeing is not a prerequisite to why some see Shelbys over priced

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

... and you agreeing is not a prerequisite to why some see Shelbys over priced

These cars are worth what someone will pay period.. Very simple. Overpriced ??? Maybe to you they are !! Others look at it an think "I like that a lot" and BUY it like me without a second thought. Different strokes for different folks.
Ok.. goin out for a hell ride an freeze to death BUT it will be fun !

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Blue66

These cars are worth what someone will pay period.. Very simple. Overpriced ??? Maybe to you they are !! Others look at it an think "I like that a lot" and BUY it like me without a second thought. Different strokes for different folks.
Ok.. goin out for a hell ride an freeze to death BUT it will be fun !

If you've owned a CSX, and sold it, you will generally find that there will be a reward rather than a penalty at the end of the rainbow.

I bought my Cobra for the simple reason that I fit in it. Couldn't get comfortable in a SPF. Aluminum (either CSX or KMS) was out of the question due to the regional weather considerations - hail and aluminum don't get along well.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

If you've owned a CSX, and sold it, you will generally find that there will be a reward rather than a penalty at the end of the rainbow.

I can understand why some folks choose the Shelby brand over others, because each of us has a value equation in our minds. Even though I'm a lifelong genuine Shelby Cobra and Mustang fan, I saw no value in purchasing the Shelby brand, OTOH, Evan sees value.

But, in terms of the alloy replicas, Shelby and Kirkham, since Kirkham provides the entire 50th Anniversary Edition, there's an easy comparison, what would be your guess when those two cars are re-sold in the secondary market? Do you think that approximately $65,000 Shelby premium will increase, remain the same or decrease when the original owners sell their cars?

If I were a betting person, I'd put my money on the Shelby premium declining from $65,000. If so, then there's a "penalty" to buying a Shelby replica. All specs being equal, besides the CSX plaque of course.

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

If you've owned a CSX, and sold it, you will generally find that there will be a reward rather than a penalty at the end of the rainbow.

I bought my Cobra for the simple reason that I fit in it. Couldn't get comfortable in a SPF. Aluminum (either CSX or KMS) was out of the question due to the regional weather considerations - hail and aluminum don't get along well.

Have had "rewards" on all the Shelbys and the CSX 3000 we had. I have a glass car because we drive it everywhere. We also drive down a 1/2 mile dirt road to get to the lake. Brings a smile every time we go out in it.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Blue66

These cars are worth what someone will pay period.. Very simple. Overpriced ??? Maybe to you they are !! Others look at it an think "I like that a lot" and BUY it like me without a second thought. Different strokes for different folks.
Ok.. goin out for a hell ride an freeze to death BUT it will be fun !

yeah, supply and demand with costs adjusted accordingly, we all get it.