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Cobra vs exotics at the track???
I had an amazing day today, went to Atlanta Motorsports Park and got to take a few laps in a Ferrari Italia 458. First time on a road course for me, I was quit impressed. Even the little Mitsubishi Evos were a blast to ride in...I could not believe how fast a 290 hp car could make it around the track, what a different track tires make!!!
I hope this urge to go to the track more, passes soon, as this could get expensive!!! So,to the questions...can a 427sc keep up with these newer machines on a technical course like Atlanta? I guess the power to weight ratio goes to the Cobra, but is it enough to out weigh all the computer aids that these new exotics have. Which Cobra manufacturer should I look at if I think I might want to go play at the track on occasion? |
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W/O getting into huge money, I think the best bang for the buck is a Factory Five Spec Racer for a track car. It can still be street legal, so you don't have to get into trailer, tow vehicle, etc. That's where it gets really expensive.
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In my track day experience, I have seen the following brands do well (in no particular order):
The biggest differences in performance were due to driver skill, tires and preparation. On a short, slower track where aerodynamics didn't matter much, I easily chased down and passed a C6 Corvette Z06 in the hands of an inexperienced driver. On a large, high speed track I was easily passed by a Porsche in the hands of a very experienced driver. You can always find someone faster than you and someone slower. My bottom line is that a really good driver in an old style analog car like a Cobra replica can be as fast as an average driver in a modern car full of computer assistance. But if you put the same driver in a Cobra and a Ferrari 458, he'll likely be faster in the Ferrari. |
My late model Z06 would literally annihilate my Cobra on a HPDE. 50 years of technology is hard to compete with (brakes/tires/suspension/etc).
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See post #2. It shows that an old (or technologically old) car can whup a new tech car if prepared and driven properly.
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Boy this thread could go South easily. IMO, you have to segregate originals and those attempting an accurate replication, cars meant for street duty, and finally cars shaped like a cobra with suspension and chassis designed for the track. If talking about the latter, the cobra wins against any production car.
As an example: My still incomplete heavily modified ffr (cobra tribute, not replica) comes in at less than 2,100 pounds with a full cage, full aero package, modern brembo brakes, 700+hp, wide rubber, and quality racing suspension. It would be unrealistic to think any production street car would keep up at the track. |
I would be interested in a replica, no aero package.
Mikeinatlanta, where will you be running your car, I would love to see it? Do you have a build thread? |
no build thread. assorted pics at dynashield.com and area specific threads at ffcars. it's a full mockup build and I'll do a build thread on final assembly.
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If you want a good track car for the price it's hard to beat a Miata.
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Shhh! In the jungle we come upon a small group of male Silverbacks. Each trying to gain dominance over the rest of the group. We soon realize it's the same group we always encounter at the same spot! Amazing! Anyone know of a outfit that delivers popcorn by the cubic yard? Just messing with you guys, carry on. LOL
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Using that logic, a production vette would outperform a tube framed vette without driver aids. Or is it that a race chassis knows that it is bodied with a vintage styled body and must therefore slow down? What if you were to take the famed miata and drop 500 pounds of fat with a tube chassis? Would it be faster? what if you took the miata body off and installed a lighter still cobra body? Would that suddenly slow it down? |
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