Small Volume Car Makers Law Change

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

Seems it would hurt all the distributors of the cars, they are usually the ones who put it all together, why would you buy a car from say Vintage motorsports who sells the backdraft when you could just get the whole car completed from the Factory...

Well, there's a catch if you read the actual bill. You cannot be the importer and the distributor of turn key cars. This does not impact a company building cars completely in USA.

Also to qualify the vehicle must be a licensed product. We will have to see who the "Cobra" must be licensed from before making any decisions there.

[*13*]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Man - you guys are a bunch of skeptics!! Here's me thinking "Wow, great - now companies like say, FFR and others will be able to offer a decently priced turnkey Cobra with a Coyote (or better yet an LS-7 ) and open up a whole new market segment of enthusiasts who can't imagine trying to build a car themselves; and other companies will be able to produce and sell some awesome, innovative new limited-production cars."

Meanwhile you're all seeing another government conspiracy hiding behind every blade of grass, and what's really happening is they're coming to take our Cobras away!

I lived in CA 13 years. Try building a classic car with a crate motor there & you'll warm to our skepticism. It's coming. The question is, how many years/decades & how does it happen.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by *13*

I lived in CA 13 years. Try building a classic car with a crate motor there & you'll warm to our skepticism. It's coming. The question is, how many years/decades & how does it happen.

Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?

Spoon fed state..

[*13*]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?

What did you call me? . CA leading the way in saving our planet, one custom, one off built garage queen car at a time. I'm not bitter...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

I live in the SF Bay Area and I'm very happy with CA. Thank you very much.

No revolution needed in my neighborhood. We have the undefeated and defending champion Golden State Warriors, the 3-time World Series Champion SF Giants, uh, er, and some friggin' team that calls themselves the San Francisco 49ers, but they're definitely imposters.

That's the revolution we need. Get rid of the Yorks as owners of the 49ers.

But I digress. No one is coming for your Cobra, Bernica. Down boy.

[RodKnock]

I kinda wonder if Cobra replicas with FE's and other polluting engines will become extinct now. CA could/will update their SB100/SPCNS program to follow the Federal law and go one step further and outlaw polluting engines in our Cobra replicas. But if they're green engines, CA may lift the 500 exemption limit each year.

I'm not sure what the new law means for enthusiasts building more-accurate replicas. Maybe CA will continue the SB100/SPCNS program for exhaust-belching engines.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I kinda wonder if Cobra replicas with FE's and other polluting engines will become extinct now. CA could/will update their SB100/SPCNS program to follow the Federal law and go one step further and outlaw polluting engines in our Cobra replicas. But if they're green engines, CA may lift the 500 exemption limit each year.

I'm not sure what the new law means for enthusiasts building more-accurate replicas. Maybe CA will continue the SB100/SPCNS program for exhaust-belching engines.

Which then bears the question if those of us in CA with SB100's are able to live in perpetuality? Or do the Smog Nazis take them away from us?

To me, belching a little Sunoco or VP fuel on a Saturday or Sunday is so minuscule compared to the bigger picture.

Leave me alone, and get off my lawn!

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Which then bears the question if those of us in CA with SB100's are able to live in perpetuality? Or do the Smog Nazis take them away from us?

To me, belching a little Sunoco or VP fuel on a Saturday or Sunday is so minuscule compared to the bigger picture.

Leave me alone, and get off my lawn!

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[Paul F]

Buzz,

I normally don't jump to the conspiracy side of things, but California is filled to the brim with overzealous environmentalists. There are groups of environmentalists that work full-time to sue city, county, and the state on every possible action. The result is that rather than go to court, the agency submits to a cash settlement. The environmentalists take that cash to continue to fill their coffers and sue again and again and continue to get awarded settlements.

Example - our town approved a shopping center on property that was formerly a high school. Environmentalists sued on some basis (I've forgotten the reason). The town caved and gave them $100,000. It got built, but it was delayed for a long time.

Example - the state highway in town was being widened and additional lanes were added to a bridge. The state put up netting on the underside of the bridge to prevent birds from nesting so they would not get hurt during construction per previous agreements with the environmentalists from previous bridge building. The environmentalists sued them for putting up the netting.

On and on it goes to a level of insanity. Just the fact that the legislation is coming up will get the attention of some environmentalist and who knows what will happen.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Paul F

Buzz,
On and on it goes to a level of insanity. Just the fact that the legislation is coming up will get the attention of some environmentalist and who knows what will happen.

And somehow they will figure out how our cars are impacting the California Smelt or some "rare" snail somewhere.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Bernica

And somehow they will figure out how our cars are impacting the California Smelt or some "rare" snail somewhere.

I remember the Kangaroo Rat and Kit Fox (or whatever it/they were) being endangered species way back in the old days. All you had to do is buy some vacant land nearby and ship them all over there.

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by Paul F

Buzz,

I normally don't jump to the conspiracy side of things, but California is filled to the brim with overzealous environmentalists. There are groups of environmentalists that work full-time to sue city, county, and the state on every possible action. The result is that rather than go to court, the agency submits to a cash settlement. The environmentalists take that cash to continue to fill their coffers and sue again and again and continue to get awarded settlements.

Example - our town approved a shopping center on property that was formerly a high school. Environmentalists sued on some basis (I've forgotten the reason). The town caved and gave them $100,000. It got built, but it was delayed for a long time.

Example - the state highway in town was being widened and additional lanes were added to a bridge. The state put up netting on the underside of the bridge to prevent birds from nesting so they would not get hurt during construction per previous agreements with the environmentalists from previous bridge building. The environmentalists sued them for putting up the netting.

On and on it goes to a level of insanity. Just the fact that the legislation is coming up will get the attention of some environmentalist and who knows what will happen.

While us Californian's wouldn't think of moving because the pluses far out weigh the minuses, here is a follow up to my post. The local paper wrote an article this week that mentioned that the environmentalists were hoping that the birds will return to nesting under the bridge now that it is finished.... and oh by the way, the cost of the netting and re-netting? $5 million. Yep, $5 mill to keep birds temporarily off the underside of a bridge. To top it all off, neither netting worked so the environmentalists insisted that the state have people monitor the underside of the bridge and scrape off any nests that were started by the birds.

There's no doubt it is much cheaper to live elsewhere and the above is a prime example of why.

[RodKnock]

Personally, I really like clean air and our CA air is cleaner. Where's that "kiss my bare butt" emoji when you need it.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Personally, I really like clean air and our CA air is cleaner. Where's that "kiss my bare butt" emoji when you need it.

Los Angeles has the most smog I have seen...

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

Los Angeles has the most smog I have seen...

The videos from China were pretty scary. Both Phoenix and Denver have their temperature inversion days. Vegas being in a similar bowl does get some haze but nowhere near the "brown cloud" from D & P. Dust is the major contributor though.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

Los Angeles has the most smog I have seen...

Well, your not looking close enough then.

A recent 20-year USC study states less smog in LA. Air quality has improved.

Los Angeles Sees Health Benefits as Its Smog Haze Clears - WSJ

[Bernica]

Yup! Very cleaned up and many places much worse in this country.