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Old 12-07-2015, 10:15 AM
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Have you read the full law? Would be interested in you take on the license agreement section and how it may apply within our hobby (cobra, coupe), especially with regard to past law suits on the subject. Would also be very interested in Jamo's take.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:38 PM
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Man - you guys are a bunch of skeptics!! Here's me thinking "Wow, great - now companies like say, FFR and others will be able to offer a decently priced turnkey Cobra with a Coyote (or better yet an LS-7 ) and open up a whole new market segment of enthusiasts who can't imagine trying to build a car themselves; and other companies will be able to produce and sell some awesome, innovative new limited-production cars."

Meanwhile you're all seeing another government conspiracy hiding behind every blade of grass, and what's really happening is they're coming to take our Cobras away!
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:42 PM
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Man - you guys are a bunch of skeptics!! Here's me thinking "Wow, great - now companies like say, FFR and others will be able to offer a decently priced turnkey Cobra with a Coyote (or better yet an LS-7 ) and open up a whole new market segment of enthusiasts who can't imagine trying to build a car themselves; and other companies will be able to produce and sell some awesome, innovative new limited-production cars."

Meanwhile you're all seeing another government conspiracy hiding behind every blade of grass, and what's really happening is they're coming to take our Cobras away!
I honestly hope everything you said is true (except the LS7 part).
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I honestly hope everything you said is true (except the LS7 part).
Seems it would hurt all the distributors of the cars, they are usually the ones who put it all together, why would you buy a car from say Vintage motorsports who sells the backdraft when you could just get the whole car completed from the Factory...
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:53 PM
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Seems it would hurt all the distributors of the cars, they are usually the ones who put it all together, why would you buy a car from say Vintage motorsports who sells the backdraft when you could just get the whole car completed from the Factory...
Well, there's a catch if you read the actual bill. You cannot be the importer and the distributor of turn key cars. This does not impact a company building cars completely in USA.

Also to qualify the vehicle must be a licensed product. We will have to see who the "Cobra" must be licensed from before making any decisions there.
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Man - you guys are a bunch of skeptics!! Here's me thinking "Wow, great - now companies like say, FFR and others will be able to offer a decently priced turnkey Cobra with a Coyote (or better yet an LS-7 ) and open up a whole new market segment of enthusiasts who can't imagine trying to build a car themselves; and other companies will be able to produce and sell some awesome, innovative new limited-production cars."

Meanwhile you're all seeing another government conspiracy hiding behind every blade of grass, and what's really happening is they're coming to take our Cobras away!
I lived in CA 13 years. Try building a classic car with a crate motor there & you'll warm to our skepticism. It's coming. The question is, how many years/decades & how does it happen.
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I lived in CA 13 years. Try building a classic car with a crate motor there & you'll warm to our skepticism. It's coming. The question is, how many years/decades & how does it happen.
Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?
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Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.

Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?
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Of course, you might fix your problems in the next election cycle by NOT voting for any lawyers or for people who are up for reelection.

Didn't Jegs stop shipping crate engines to CA a few years ago?
What did you call me? . CA leading the way in saving our planet, one custom, one off built garage queen car at a time. I'm not bitter...
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:07 PM
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Yeah, you guys in CA ought to have a revolutionary war.
I live in the SF Bay Area and I'm very happy with CA. Thank you very much.

No revolution needed in my neighborhood. We have the undefeated and defending champion Golden State Warriors, the 3-time World Series Champion SF Giants, uh, er, and some friggin' team that calls themselves the San Francisco 49ers, but they're definitely imposters.

That's the revolution we need. Get rid of the Yorks as owners of the 49ers.

But I digress. No one is coming for your Cobra, Bernica. Down boy.
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I live in the SF Bay Area and I'm very happy with CA. Thank you very much.

No revolution needed in my neighborhood. We have the undefeated and defending champion Golden State Warriors, the 3-time World Series Champion SF Giants, uh, er, and some friggin' team that calls themselves the San Francisco 49ers, but they're definitely imposters.

That's the revolution we need. Get rid of the Yorks as owners of the 49ers.

But I digress. No one is coming for your Cobra, Bernica. Down boy.
CA taxes are through the roof, you can live in most states for less than half, and your gun laws are a joke, to many people making decisions for you, nice to visit but would never want to live there, and don't even get me started on your traffic, that alone is where the smog is... 2 hours in LA to drive 20 miles...lol
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CA taxes are through the roof, you can live in most states for less than half, and your gun laws are a joke, to many people making decisions for you, nice to visit but would never want to live there, and don't even get me started on your traffic, that alone is where the smog is... 2 hours in LA to drive 20 miles...lol
I'm happy here along with the other roughly 39 Million Californians.
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But I digress. No one is coming for your Cobra, Bernica. Down boy.
They can come for it along with my gun safe parked next to it and as big as a Sub Zero double-wide refrigerator.
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They can come for it along with my gun safe parked next to it and as big as a Sub Zero double-wide refrigerator.
As long as they don't touch your 32 oz. Slurpees.
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