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02-25-2016, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
Good God, we are turning this into a Corvette thread? Really??
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Why not? Consider it a tribute to all the times Real1 drug a thread off to his favorite topic.
BTW, the one on the right is real.
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
Previously owned EM Cobra
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02-25-2016, 08:42 PM
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But is it original?
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02-25-2016, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
But is it original?
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OK, I admit that the air in the tires, the gas in the tank and some other things are not as they were in 1963. But the VIN plate was placed in 1963.
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
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02-27-2016, 05:10 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Originally Posted by Tommy
OK, I admit that the air in the tires, the gas in the tank and some other things are not as they were in 1963. But the VIN plate was placed in 1963.
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Opps - there goes the Top Flight award.  |
02-26-2016, 11:47 AM
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Like the 63, is it a standard split window?
I can not tell from the image.
Once in a while they roll out a vintage vette out on the lobby floor. Some look like they never were driven past the storage area. Last one was the 52.
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02-26-2016, 12:18 PM
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All 63 coupes left the factory as a split window. Due to the grills on the hood it would be a 63 unless someone added the grills to a 64.
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02-26-2016, 01:12 PM
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Yeah, that's a red 1963 SWC. I bought it in 1978 when it was just a used hotrod Corvette with a flame paint job and giant mag wheels.
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Tommy
Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
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02-27-2016, 08:47 AM
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The running joke on the Corvette forum is that 36 of the original 8 Corvettes with numbers matching L88 engines are still around.
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
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02-27-2016, 09:34 AM
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Well that makes sense Tommy.
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02-27-2016, 11:07 AM
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I left the Corvette world guys. Please I'd rather be a buyer of Evan's car and have to talk to Evan about buying his car, rather than talk matching #'s.  |
02-27-2016, 11:57 AM
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I left the Corvette world guys. Please I'd rather be a buyer of Evan's car and have to talk to Evan about buying his car, rather than talk matching #'s. |
Seeing how you have lifted that rock up, what would be your counter to his $229K |
02-27-2016, 12:00 PM
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RodKnock,
I appreciate your frustration with the direction this thread has taken. So, I'll offer something to point it back in the original direction.
IMHO, there is a strong parallel between Real1's neverending effort to convince the world that his car was every bit as much a real Shelby Cobra as the one's built back in the 60's, and some in the Corvette world who would have you believe their car is more original than others because it has "matching numbers." There are strong indications that many "matching numbers" cars do not have all their original parts. Yet the people who want to sell them insist that a higher selling price is warranted because the numbers look right. People who buy a numbers matching car at an inflated price are then motivated to enthusiastically embrace the genuineness of their cars to protect their investment. ... Does that sound like anyone we know?
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
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02-27-2016, 12:10 PM
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Bueller, Bueller?
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02-27-2016, 12:13 PM
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If Evan gets into the "numbers matching game" it will either make him insane or somehow satisfy his needs to chase things down to "absolutely correct". But then where are you? Right back where you started....
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02-27-2016, 12:22 PM
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I know there are some CSX continuation owners who purchased the aftermarket Shelby blocks and then had them stamped the same number as their CSX # so they could have "matching numbers." Drinking too much of the "Kool Aid"?
My '66 427 Corvette lost its original engine before I owned it, so I installed a Tremec TKO 5speed and a 540ci engine with a Dart block, IIRC. So matching alternators, starters, tranny, engine, hose clamps, radiators, etc. did not matter one iota to me. And I'm sure that's why the CSX plaque on a Kirkham body matters NOT to me.
I'm thinking Evan's CSX4206 is about a $175,000-$180,000 car or roughly a $20,000-$25,000 premium over Vern's CSX that was asking $160,000. And I'm giving the black paint of Evan's car extra value. But while I love black Cobras, I personally prefer alloy Cobras to be "bare naked." Why not show off that gorgeous body? |
02-27-2016, 05:00 PM
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This alloy Kirkham Cobra has only 150 miles and "no stories."
$179K OBO
Shelby | eBay
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02-27-2016, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
This alloy Kirkham Cobra has only 150 miles and "no stories."
$179K OBO
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well thats a modified car compared to Evans. It's a matter of what someone is looking for. Personally I'd want the CSX #.. I know I know thats another thread
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02-27-2016, 06:18 PM
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What fun is a car with "no stories?"
I'd pay extra for that!
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02-27-2016, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
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What fun is a car with "no stories?"
I'd pay extra for that!
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I keep going back to if Evan's car does sell someday what the new owner will have to deal with. It will always be "Evan's car" in cobra circles - he promoted it everywhere, no getting around it. That's unwanted baggage, never the new owner's new cobra, just Evan's old CSX4206.
If the new owner ever showed up here, I'm sure we would welcome him as a brother. I also know that as soon as CSX4206 is mentioned the peanut gallery will chime in "oh, you own Evan's cobra" lol. |
02-27-2016, 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
This alloy Kirkham Cobra has only 150 miles and "no stories."
$179K OBO
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Description says "rare aluminum body." Not rare for a Kirkham. |
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