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02-25-2016, 07:54 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
Posts: 4,533
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Originally Posted by Tommy
Over on the old Corvette forum, a few weeks ago a guy caused a minor uproar by announcing that he had given up on buying a mid-60s Corvette in favor of a new Superformance. As you might expect, the Corvette loyalists questioned his judgement and dedication to the marque. He explained that he thought the 1963-67 Corvettes were overpriced (for what you got) and the Superformance offered better quality, performance and street appeal for the dollars spent. I agreed with his basic rationale but reminded him of one thing. The value of an item is largely determined by supply and demand. The supply of mid-60s Corvettes is fixed, so the value is determined solely by demand. The supply of Cobra replicas is increasing and, as long as demand is sufficient, builders will continue to make them. That means it is unlikely their values will increase significantly as they do with collectible cars. .... Cobra replicas are great fun to drive, but I can't see the value of cars that are still being made and sold increasing like the original Cobras of the 1960s.
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Yeah - if that was the C1-C2 forum I think I remember that. I ended up weighing in on the defense of the quality and performance of a lot of Cobra replicas. But, I've owned a 66 Vette for over 25 years and buying one these days is a very risky proposition for the money involved. They are all advertised as "never hit", original motor", "perfect restoration or survivor quality" and priced accordingly - and they probably are not at least 95% of the time. Lots of hidden issues and scams especially if you are not almost a Corvette expert.
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02-25-2016, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Austin, TX,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 599 Polished Bronze
Posts: 551
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If you see a CSX 4000 series advertised and it's an aluminum body, it will be called out in the first line of the add. If nothing is said, you can be assured that it is fiberglass. If there is an engine shot, you can tell by the way the body is secured to the frame around the hood opening. I think the fiberglass body's on the CSX 4000 series are beautiful and true to form. If they're priced 150K or less, they are most likely fiberglass.
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02-25-2016, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,617
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Having read most of the threads that Real1 took part in that dealt with the real versus original debate regarding his car, you can bet (being a lawyer) that he will word his replies in such a way that the potential buyer (if not well educated in the Cobra world) will think he is buying a historic vehicle.
We've all seen him duck-and-weave, dodge-and-deflect, when called on his claims, but all it takes is one, less than knowledgeable buyer, for him to make a sale.
I'm not saying he would ever misrepresent his car intentionally to a prospective buyer, but we all know how he is known for pushing definitions and gray areas to suit his needs.
I just hope he is very careful and honest with a prospective buyer, as you never know how vindictive a buyer, who believes he was misled by the seller, can be.
Once you get in the $250,000 range, you are dealing with a different class of buyer. One that just might make life miserable for anyone that dupes them. Evan is currently a big fish in a small pond (at least he thinks he is). But there are lots of bigger fish in much bigger ponds that just might take major offense if they purchased his car thinking it was something it wasn't.
Just sayin!
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02-25-2016, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Yeah - if that was the C1-C2 forum I think I remember that. I ended up weighing in on the defense of the quality and performance of a lot of Cobra replicas. But, I've owned a 66 Vette for over 25 years and buying one these days is a very risky proposition for the money involved. They are all advertised as "never hit", original motor", "perfect restoration or survivor quality" and priced accordingly - and they probably are not at least 95% of the time. Lots of hidden issues and scams especially if you are not almost a Corvette expert.
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I owned a '66 427 Corvette Roadster, with factory side exhaust, for about 25 years. The original engine was long gone, so I installed a 540ci/600+HP engine with custom Sanderson headers, made to fit an aftermarket, but OEM looking side exhaust. I can only speak for an alloy-bodied Cobra with an FE engine, but the difference between a BB Cobra and BB Corvette is night and day. The mid-year Corvette is 3,200 lbs. My Kirkham is 2,100 lbs.
Last edited by RodKnock; 02-25-2016 at 11:54 AM..
Reason: Corvette is heavier, after looking it up.
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