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03-05-2016, 07:56 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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03-05-2016, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
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Correct, the first listing. Turns out I live about 20 miles from Dave, small world.
One of the nicest Kirkhams I've ever seen listed.
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03-06-2016, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe's Garage
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One of the nicest Kirkhams I've ever seen listed.
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Yup have to agree !!! Work of art.. Lots of "cool guy" parts on it to if that's what your looking for. Nice paint ... I like painted cars  But like Evans car it's way to nice for me flying down my dirt road 
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427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run 
Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
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03-06-2016, 07:00 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold - Shelby Cobra CSX6045, 468 ci all aluminum Shelby engine
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Originally Posted by Bernica
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Is there any problem with the SB100 stating a 1960 Ford engine when it really isn't? |
03-06-2016, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Al G
Is there any problem with the SB100 stating a 1960 Ford engine when it really isn't?
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Perfectly legitimate -
"Per California Vehicle Code §4750.1, the first 500 program applicants in each calendar year may choose whether the inspection is based on the model-year of the engine used in the vehicle or the vehicle model-year. If the engine or the vehicle does not sufficiently resemble one previously manufactured, the referee will assign 1960 as the model-year." |
03-06-2016, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
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Joe,
I am not positive but I believe they did away with using the year of the engine and you just use the year the car most closely resembles now. It seems if I recall correctly there was some mess with replacement engines not having a stamp on the blocks that they could use or something along those lines. Everyone that I know used the year the car most closely resembled anyway.
Ron
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03-06-2016, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Al G
Is there any problem with the SB100 stating a 1960 Ford engine when it really isn't?
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None. Dave's KMP has the SB100 exemption. No smog checks for the life of the car.
When I got my SB100 certificate in 2008, CA BAR referee was still asking the question of a) year of car that it resembles or b) year of engine. The date of the SB100 exemption for Dave's car is 2004. |
03-06-2016, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
None. Dave's KMP has the SB100 exemption. No smog checks for the life of the car.
When I got my SB100 certificate in 2008, CA BAR referee was still asking the question of a) year of car that it resembles or b) year of engine. The date of the SB100 exemption for Dave's car is 2004.
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... and besides, the only piece of the engine that's getting reused is the block, and half the time that's an aftermarket piece anyway. For the most part, dates of these cars are meaningless other than "it looks like it came out of the early to mid sixties." |
03-06-2016, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Originally Posted by patrickt
... and besides, the only piece of the engine that's getting reused is the block, and half the time that's an aftermarket piece anyway. For the most part, dates of these cars are meaningless other than "it looks like it came out of the early to mid sixties."
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Not me - I believe in recycling. 1970 428 Service Block. 1961 390/401 HP heads ported/polished/valves upsized - all to 427 specs. 1963 427 dual quad intake. 1963 dual point distributor. Stock rebuilt water pump. Stock timing chain cover. Stock fuel lines, filter, etc. Doing my part to give old engine parts a new life.  |
03-06-2016, 04:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Not me - I believe in recycling. 1970 428 Service Block. 1961 390/401 HP heads ported/polished/valves upsized - all to 427 specs. 1963 427 dual quad intake. 1963 dual point distributor. Stock rebuilt water pump. Stock timing chain cover. Stock fuel lines, filter, etc. Doing my part to give old engine parts a new life. |
... then if I were the inspector I would take the sum of the dates for every part and then divide by the number of parts. That at least has a rational basis behind it, and it's no more wrong than just reaching in your bag and pulling out "1960." |
03-06-2016, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
... then if I were the inspector I would take the sum of the dates for every part and then divide by the number of parts. That at least has a rational basis behind it, and it's no more wrong than just reaching in your bag and pulling out "1960."
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I vaguely remember looking into the books with the BAR referee and seeing/hearing the year "1960." I also remember that the BAR referee station was inside a vocational school for young adults that had prior problems with the law and desired to be mechanics. As my polished Kirkham was going through its emissions test as classes let out, I remember being a bit nervous as about 50 of them crowded around my car. All I heard as I watched the test was the question "how much is that car?" I assume just in case they were successful in delinking it from my possession.  |
03-06-2016, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Not me - I believe in recycling. 1970 428 Service Block. 1961 390/401 HP heads ported/polished/valves upsized - all to 427 specs. 1963 427 dual quad intake. 1963 dual point distributor. Stock rebuilt water pump. Stock timing chain cover. Stock fuel lines, filter, etc. Doing my part to give old engine parts a new life. |
Did you also use recycled electrical wiring too? (jk) |
03-07-2016, 04:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Did you also use recycled electrical wiring too? (jk) |
You would bring up electrical wiring - my weak area. I have enough problems here so I splurged for the new stuff. |
03-07-2016, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Not me - I believe in recycling. 1970 428 Service Block. 1961 390/401 HP heads ported/polished/valves upsized - all to 427 specs. 1963 427 dual quad intake. 1963 dual point distributor. Stock rebuilt water pump. Stock timing chain cover. Stock fuel lines, filter, etc. Doing my part to give old engine parts a new life. |
Very nice! The 61 390 was the first I believe have had more HP that cubic inches! Your build brings back lots of memories. Send some pics.
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03-06-2016, 04:57 PM
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My SB100 sticker says "Engine year 1965 Ford 7L, 1x4BBL carb."
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