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03-15-2016, 05:29 PM
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"You can take the donkey to the top of the mountain, or you can take the tram. It is the same price." Ron White, "Worst Donkey Ride Salespitch, ever"
I think the idea behind comparing the price for the AC MKIV with the Kirkham roller price is all about comparing to the nearest alternative option.
Both are aluminum. Neither are "real" Shelby's. One is ready to run with a 302, and the other is going to take the GDP of a small country to complete. If you're in the market for a Cobra and were considering a Kirkham...
It IS interesting that Kirkham has become a standard by which others are compared. I would think there would be more to gain by playing the "AC" angle, the heritage, the spawning into the Shelby Cobra, the second act, blah bla blah.
But...
"You can take the donkey to the top of the mountain..."
DD
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03-15-2016, 05:57 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug
"You can take the donkey to the top of the mountain, or you can take the tram. It is the same price." Ron White, "Worst Donkey Ride Salespitch, ever"
I think the idea behind comparing the price for the AC MKIV with the Kirkham roller price is all about comparing to the nearest alternative option.
Both are aluminum. Neither are "real" Shelby's. One is ready to run with a 302, and the other is going to take the GDP of a small country to complete. If you're in the market for a Cobra and were considering a Kirkham...
It IS interesting that Kirkham has become a standard by which others are compared. I would think there would be more to gain by playing the "AC" angle, the heritage, the spawning into the Shelby Cobra, the second act, blah bla blah.
But...
"You can take the donkey to the top of the mountain..."
DD
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They're both aluminum. That's where the similarity ends for me.
A $100,000 kit car roller, which must go through various hoops to be registered in most states isn't the same as a legally register-able Ford product sold thru dealers in the 1980's.
And I'm assuming that there are recent sales of AC MKIV's to use for the best price comparison. I know what the seller is trying to do, he's using the Kirkham roller price of $100,000 to justify his higher price of $120,000, when other MK IV sales are less than $100,000.
Lastly, AC MKIV had so many changes to make them legal, say like 5mph bumpers and what has been described by AC MKIV owners as an anemic 302, etc., that a Kirkham to me is an apples and oranges comparison to me.
Of course, that's just my $0.02.
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03-15-2016, 06:25 PM
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The AC Mk IV market is strong, especially in Europe. Nice unbuggered cars are selling in the 120-140K range. No, they are NOT a '60s Cobra but they are the genuine alloy version that could be bought over the counter in the 1980s.
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03-15-2016, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
.....what has been described by AC MKIV owners as an anemic 302, etc., that a Kirkham to me is an apples and oranges comparison to me.
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Yes, but if one is looking to buy fruit, then both, either, or, an apple or orange may well do.
Just as long as they aint getting a lemon 
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03-15-2016, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimis
Yes, but if one is looking to buy fruit, then both, either, or, an apple or orange may well do.
Just as long as they aint getting a lemon 
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Aussies. Who can understand them? 
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03-15-2016, 08:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Aussies. Who can understand them? 
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Too cryptic for you?
I'll try English next time 
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