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04-25-2016, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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What he said times 10.
I thought I had covered all the electrics with plastic and proceeded to spray a degreaser all over the engine compartment and then proceeded to lightly spray water on the engine to rinse off the degreaser.
BAD MOVE! I must not have covered the starter solenoid well enough as water got on it and shorted out the solenoid causing the starter to engage and try and start the engine. Since it was parked and in first gear, as the starter turned, the car lurched forward and hit a cement planter that was in my drive way, and since the connection was still wet, it kept pushing the car into the planter until the solenoid finally gave out and the starter quit.
Result? $17,000 in fiberglass damage and a month in the body shop! Also, battery and solenoid were shot. So use a rag or, if you're going to use anything wet, disconnect the battery and don't even think of reconnecting it until the entire compartment is dry.
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04-25-2016, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I haven't washed an engine compartment in a long, long time... and I've never done it to my Cobra at all. But, any time I did it in the past I always had sensor or wiring/electrical problems after I did it. Plus, it would leave a stain on whatever was under the engine compartment (I would use the spray "Engine Brite" type grease cutter.) Now, when I "tidy up" the engine compartment in the Cobra, I use a rag and 409 spray cleaner and do it by hand. I love 409 -- it's my favorite cleaner for the car (I don't use it on the body though).
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04-25-2016, 03:57 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canandaigua,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF MKII Riverside Racer FIA
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I have seen someone use Dawn dish detergent on a rag. Same stuff they use to get oil off of waterfowl in an oil spill. What ever you use, spray it on a rag then apply. Tough and tedious work.
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04-25-2016, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
What he said times 10.
I thought I had covered all the electrics with plastic and proceeded to spray a degreaser all over the engine compartment and then proceeded to lightly spray water on the engine to rinse off the degreaser.
BAD MOVE! I must not have covered the starter solenoid well enough as water got on it and shorted out the solenoid causing the starter to engage and try and start the engine. Since it was parked and in first gear, as the starter turned, the car lurched forward and hit a cement planter that was in my drive way, and since the connection was still wet, it kept pushing the car into the planter until the solenoid finally gave out and the starter quit.
Result? $17,000 in fiberglass damage and a month in the body shop! Also, battery and solenoid were shot. So use a rag or, if you're going to use anything wet, disconnect the battery and don't even think of reconnecting it until the entire compartment is dry.
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Wow, that's one helluva lesson. I have taken various classic cars to a motor steam clean service but the golden rule they followed was to let it sit in the sun with hood up for 4 hours before returning it back to you. I never had a problem, not even with cars still using points, condenser and much of the original wiring.
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04-26-2016, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
I must not have covered the starter solenoid well enough as water got on it and shorted out the solenoid causing the starter to engage and try and start the engine.
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You know, I have, occasionally, when I was doing something with the engine, reached in to the cockpit from outside the car and started it up -- thinking afterwards, "damn, I'm glad it was in neutral." I have also, from time to time, absent mindedly left the ignition key in the car -- tempting someone to reach in and turn the key -- and I usually leave the car in gear. When I blew my clutch out years ago out in the middle of nowhere I drove the car up on to the flatbed using nothing more than the old stock Ford monster 50 lb. starter motor -- so I know that thing can power the Cobra with no problem whatsoever. I have toyed with the idea of making use of the TKO's neutral safety switch. But, I don't know if even a NSS would stop a water short to the solenoid.
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04-27-2016, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
What he said times 10.
I thought I had covered all the electrics with plastic and proceeded to spray a degreaser all over the engine compartment and then proceeded to lightly spray water on the engine to rinse off the degreaser.
BAD MOVE! I must not have covered the starter solenoid well enough as water got on it and shorted out the solenoid causing the starter to engage and try and start the engine. Since it was parked and in first gear, as the starter turned, the car lurched forward and hit a cement planter that was in my drive way, and since the connection was still wet, it kept pushing the car into the planter until the solenoid finally gave out and the starter quit.
Result? $17,000 in fiberglass damage and a month in the body shop! Also, battery and solenoid were shot. So use a rag or, if you're going to use anything wet, disconnect the battery and don't even think of reconnecting it until the entire compartment is dry.
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Wow - I feel for you, man! What a day that must've been - mishaps like that either make a man blow a gasket or just stand there shaking his head in disbelief.
I've always carefully used degreaser and a hose along with some elbow grease after covering the carb and distributor with plastic, but I never ever thought of something like that happening.
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04-27-2016, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
What he said times 10.
I thought I had covered all the electrics with plastic and proceeded to spray a degreaser all over the engine compartment and then proceeded to lightly spray water on the engine to rinse off the degreaser.
BAD MOVE! I must not have covered the starter solenoid well enough as water got on it and shorted out the solenoid causing the starter to engage and try and start the engine. Since it was parked and in first gear, as the starter turned, the car lurched forward and hit a cement planter that was in my drive way, and since the connection was still wet, it kept pushing the car into the planter until the solenoid finally gave out and the starter quit.
Result? $17,000 in fiberglass damage and a month in the body shop! Also, battery and solenoid were shot. So use a rag or, if you're going to use anything wet, disconnect the battery and don't even think of reconnecting it until the entire compartment is dry.
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I was just catching up and saw this. My first comment was going to be:
Whatever you do, first, disconnect the battery.
I've never washed the compartment on my sports cars, but I did on my truck and Jeep. Again, first thing is to disconnect the battery. Then I used a lawn garden sprayer (exactly the one I use to spray fertilizer) filled with simple green. It's "no pressure" and gives a good spray. Let it sit for a while (not so long that the soap dries out) Then I rinse using the same sprayer and use a bottle brush on tight spots to try to loosen as much as I could. repeat the degreaser/rinse if needed. After that is all done, I used compressed air to get all of the remaining water off. Let it dry for a while (in Colorado/Nevada that is in the sun, so things warm up and dry quickly) and then reconnect the battery.
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04-27-2016, 11:14 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Disconnecting the battery first is an excellent suggestion, although I've never before heard of washing an engine causing a starter motor short and operate. But, I guess it's happened at least once now.
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04-27-2016, 11:34 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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If it is a highly detailed engine and compartment, there are folks out there that do it for a living like these guys. Of course it's probably not cheap!...
Undercarriage Steamcleaning,Detailing - Doctor Detail, Costa Mesa,CA - About Doctor Detail
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