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06-26-2016, 04:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Rich A
Most Cobra owner boast about how much HP they have under the hood, but
NEVER use, know how to use or want to take it to the track (any track) to use.
So lounge chair racers are a dime a dozen like the Cobra roadster.
That's my two cents.
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He's right. FUNFER2, after the first few years of owning an FE powered Cobra, if you haven't sold it, you're likely to have turned your attention towards: 1) eliminating leaks, and 2) getting it to run "beautifully" at slow, around town, light cruising speeds.
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06-26-2016, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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No he's not. Not me. To each it's own on what a Cobra means to you.
Fun city cruising, low power and good MPG.
Driving highways & interstate's.
Hard street driving.
All out racing.
Huge torque, low grunt, very loud and gassy.
High HP bragging rights.
We can go on & on, but we're all different on how & which way we enjoy our cars. Just because you disagree with my wants & needs, doesn't mean I'm WRONG, and you're RIGHT.
For me, a Cobra with quiet under the car exhaust doesn't get my crank turning, but I've never,....told any owner on how to construct their cars, what engine to use etc....
Although I laughed, George of Gessford Machine once built & installed a Hemi,
into a customers Cobra. Would I, hell no, but to each it's own. I'm not going to insult the owner for what he wanted. I'm sure he loves it.
If you want to "murder it out" being all flat black, fine.
If you want "Bling", fine.
If you want a 250 HP motor, fine.
If you want 2,000 HP, fine.
Or how about a "Batman" jet engine in the trunk, fine.
It's all good guys. 
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Kevin
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06-26-2016, 04:27 PM
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Patrick, how much power do you have and how much money do you have in the engine ?
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06-26-2016, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Patrick, how much power do you have and how much money do you have in the engine ?
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I wanted a "true, honest reading," so I had it dyno'd with the side pipes attached, and water pump cranking. That number was 475HP. If you pulled the engine out and put it on a dyno with open primaries, the numbers would likely be in the low 500's. IMO, a dyno reading that doesn't at least try and duplicate the running condition of the engine is blatantly misleading. As I said before, blykins could probably clone my engine for $15k, or right around that number, maybe less... as I have some overpriced parts in her that aren't really necessary.
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06-26-2016, 05:18 PM
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Thats why I prefer using a chassis dyno vs engine dyno. More real world, especially the Mustang brand. You can also break-in a engine on the chassis dyno and, it's much,.....cheaper to tune than a engine dyno.
Patrick, why did you pay to have your engine dynode, just for tuning and not for power results ?
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06-26-2016, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Patrick, why did you pay to have your engine dynode, just for tuning and not for power results ?
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In the scheme of your FE's build costs, the cost to dyno it is next to nothing. And with a SFT cam engine, the break-in is a bit trickier than with a hydraulic. Having it broken in, and then checked on a dyno, was just "reasonably prudent," as we like to say.  Stuffing it in under a Cobra's hood steals a few more horsepower, so I generally quote my number as an "honest 450HP," and she is the weak sister around here,  although I would bet my car has a slightly higher number today than it did when I took delivery. I've spent a decade learning exactly what it likes, and she runs absolutely phenomenally at WOT, slow cruising and all points in between. And I don't know what I'd do with an extra 50 or 100 HP anyway, since she breaks loose now on hard acceleration at just about any street speed.
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06-26-2016, 05:47 PM
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They chassis dyno is a great tool. Why spend $500-$1,000 on a engine dyno, when most good,.... tuners with a chassis dyno is $75 per hr.
But, if a motor is a very high power machine and it's critical to get the best tuning, especially fuel delivery, a engine dyno is preferred.
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06-26-2016, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
He's right. FUNFER2, after the first few years of owning an FE powered Cobra, if you haven't sold it, you're likely to have turned your attention towards: 1) eliminating leaks, and 2) getting it to run "beautifully" at slow, around town, light cruising speeds.
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Getting it to run at cruising speeds is just cam shaft choice. Let Blykins build you an engine tell him what u want let him pick the camshaft.
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