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patrickt 08-28-2016 12:17 PM

Yes, I give mine no thought whatsoever. I walk around and glance at the safety wire before each drive but, other than that, nothing else other than antiseize and they've never loosened.

1795 08-28-2016 01:03 PM

Ditto. I put between 4,000-6,000 miles per year on my 6 pin drive and never had them loosen, even under hard driving.

Dimis 08-28-2016 05:34 PM

...and yet it was only the other day that I saw a lugged wheel (from a trailer) go sailing past me while I was riding my bike.

Lucky for me, I was riding in the opposite direction, the road was curved in my favour, such that the wheel went into the sidewalk, and come to rest in some shrubs after bouncing a couple times off a brick fence, and the incident happened far enough away that I wasn't really in any danger...
Thank goodness however there weren't any pedestrian walking on that sidewalk.

PS: The car is priced fine.
Asking $40K for the car, and $10K for consignment...

Why anyone would purchase a car on consignment boggles my mind.
They always put fat in it, and I findmyself thinking I could purchase the same car for less elsewhere or upgrade my choice for the same money.

Good luck to both purchaser and seller. The colour looks great.

patrickt 08-28-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimis (Post 1401832)
Thank goodness however there weren't any pedestrian walking on that sidewalk.

Ahhh, the "Wheel of Fortune," to coin a phrase....:p

DanEC 08-28-2016 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1401810)
I don't understand -- is there something wrong with the FFR pin-drives? As opposed to the six pin jobs on say, my ERA, RodKnock's Kirkham, etc.?

Don't know anything about FFR pin-drives just speculating on his opinion based on my Corvette KO background. Original Corvette KOs have an adaptor secured by lug nuts separate from the KO pins. GM used long lug nuts to prevent owners from mis-indexing the wheels on the lug nuts and coming loose. It works except some people lose the long lug nuts and use standard lug nuts, mis-index a wheel and next thing they know they have one come off. It's not the best system and if you have a background in old Corvettes, it sort of gives all KOs a bad rap. For what it's worth - I've had KOs on my Corvette for 25 years and experienced one instance of finding one a little loose - but never lost one.

patrickt 08-28-2016 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanEC (Post 1401837)
Don't know anything about FFR pin-drives just speculating on his opinion based on my Corvette KO background. Original Corvette KOs have an adaptor secured by lug nuts separate from the KO pins. GM used long lug nuts to prevent owners from mis-indexing the wheels on the lug nuts and coming loose. It works except some people lose the long lug nuts and use standard lug nuts, mis-index a wheel and next thing they know they have one come off. It's not the best system and if you have a background in old Corvettes, it sort of gives all KOs a bad rap. For what it's worth - I've had KOs on my Corvette for 25 years and experienced one instance of finding one a little loose - but never lost one.

Alright, that's a good answer. I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen a FFR with six pin drives. I don't think I have.

jmimac351 08-28-2016 06:50 PM

I'm not sure what "FFR Pin Drives" means.

I had an FFR with "pin drive option" which effectively meant "pin drive width control arms, cutting, cussing, and grinding". I bought knock off wheels from Vintage Wheels. They came with a 5-lug adapter kit. I installed the adapters. I took my time and did it right. Then I put the wheels on. I really liked my lead hammer. Every once in a while, I'd check them with a light "tap". Never had a problem. Never even had one budge the slightest after the first check or 2 that needed to be hammered.

Not sure the phrase "FFR Pin Drive" being used here means much of anything. FFR doesn't have anything to do with it other than providing shorter arms that allow the wheels to fit. (Patrick, that isn't meant for you, but for people who might be reading and just don't know any better.)

After the work was done, I was happy with the result. OK, now I'm just showin' off. I liked that car. :p

https://photos.smugmug.com/289CobraL.../O/Adapter.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-XKQH5rt-L.jpg

JoeT 08-28-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1401772)
Uh, excuse me, couldn't you build one for less?

He's likely around or over 50k into the car

$20k for the complete kit
12K ish for the engine
$2500 for tranny
$8000-$10000 in paint an body
$7-10k in misc stuff (tires, brakes, powdercoating, breeze prts, headers,etc)


now your question of "couldn't you build one for less?" Sure...
$13000 for the base kit,
$1000ish for a donor
$1000ish in body/paint material
$2000-$3000 in misc stuff

So I guess if you used everything off the donor mustang, and didn't spend a penny in rebuilding anything you could be under $20k. I haven't seen a car built like that in a while though. And certainly the car the OP referenced isn't one of those

desgros@vtlink. 08-29-2016 05:40 AM

Concerning pin drive -

I believe they are reverse thread so they should tighten as the wheel turns.

I had them on a Lone Star, never any problems. Maybe the best part of the car.



ERA 289 Slabside #3010

Cashburn 08-29-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by desgros@vtlink. (Post 1401898)
Concerning pin drive -

I believe they are reverse thread so they should tighten as the wheel turns.

I had them on a Lone Star, never any problems. Maybe the best part of the car.



ERA 289 Slabside #3010

Actually it's as the wheel brakes.

patrickt 08-29-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmimac351 (Post 1401842)
I'm not sure what "FFR Pin Drives" means.

I had an FFR with "pin drive option" which effectively meant "pin drive width control arms, cutting, cussing, and grinding". I bought knock off wheels from Vintage Wheels. They came with a 5-lug adapter kit. I installed the adapters. I took my time and did it right. Then I put the wheels on. I really liked my lead hammer. Every once in a while, I'd check them with a light "tap". Never had a problem. Never even had one budge the slightest after the first check or 2 that needed to be hammered.

Not sure the phrase "FFR Pin Drive" being used here means much of anything. FFR doesn't have anything to do with it other than providing shorter arms that allow the wheels to fit. (Patrick, that isn't meant for you, but for people who might be reading and just don't know any better.)

After the work was done, I was happy with the result. OK, now I'm just showin' off. I liked that car. :p

That makes sense -- and it looks to me like it's pretty much the same five pin job that SPF, and some ERAs, use. You can't tell they're not six pins when the wheel is on and, once you get them aligned just right, they do just as well as six pins. OK, I understand now.

Cobra-Kid 08-30-2016 07:30 AM

Cars depreciate. And none of these will fetch what they cost to build, so build cost can't be used to justify market value. For a FF I would never pay this sort of price....I would not go over $30k if I wanted one, but I don't want one. I can't believe he will get $35k out of it, and he'll be very lucky if he does IMO.

G-Pete 08-30-2016 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra-Kid (Post 1401987)
I can't believe he will get $35k out of it, and he'll be very lucky if he does IMO. and I

If the car sounds and drives as it looks - he will get $45k.

mrmustang 08-30-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra-Kid (Post 1401987)
I wanted one, but I don't want one. I

then why are you here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Pete (Post 1401990)
If the car sounds and drives as it looks - he will get $45k.


I'm doubting the car would go that high (without a shill bidding it up) in a no reserve auction setting. 45K and you can still get a much higher quality built car (same make) than this one.


Bill S.

Cobra-Kid 08-31-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang (Post 1402003)
then why are you here?Bill S.

I'm here reading the new posts in the general forum. It's not a Cobra I would not want....I have a Superformance. It's a FFR that I meant I'm not interested in.

mrmustang 08-31-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra-Kid (Post 1402065)
I'm here reading the new posts in the general forum. It's not a Cobra I would not want....I have a Superformance. It's a FFR that I meant I'm not interested in.

How about telling us a little about your SPF in a new thread.
Drivetrain (always interesting to know)
Color combination (always interesting to know)
SPF chassis number (so we know which version of the MK III you have)
How you are using it (drag race, autocross, road race, Sunday driver, etc)
Any interesting history and/or stories about it under your or previous ownership

Cobra-Kid 08-31-2016 02:49 PM

OK, where to post? 427 Pond, Tremec, 600 / 600.

mrmustang 09-01-2016 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra-Kid (Post 1402098)
OK, where to post? 427 Pond, Tremec, 600 / 600.

Start a new thread in ALL TALK COBRA


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